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Has anyone tried installing Vancouver Plus version three into P3Dv4.

It was a beautiful rendition of one of the most beautiful cities and areas of the world. I wonder how it would play with the ORBX Pacific Northwest region?

Kind regards,

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I installed it and flew a few flights around the area since.  seems to generally work.  the downtown area doesn't seem to have night lighting, but I haven't tested it extensively.  on my dusk flight the lights didn't come on.  I did one flight with the PMDG NGX from FSDT's CYVR with ftx pnw and vancouver plus active, and I had acceptable frames all around, and no OOM which would have never happened before.

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Hi Shawn,

Did you just point the installer at your P3Dv4 root file, or how did you do it?

I wonder if the night lights were suppressed with the FTX light configurator?

So you got FSDT's CYVR to work in P3Dv4 too? Wow! I own that too.

If you apply to be my new best friend, I will accept! :happy:

Hmmm... Sounds like it is all worth trying

Kind regards,

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It was about a month and a half ago, so I don't remember exactly,  I did use the Estonian migrator on some installs, but I doubt it is necessary here (and some on here claim it is never adviseable).  you do want to disable the ai traffic, since some of it is fs9 based.  fsdt CYVR has a native v4 installer, so no problems there

I did have some screenshots on that flight...

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All FSDT sceneries work out of the "box." Just make sure you update using the Live Updater and you'll be all set. 

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2 hours ago, SpiritFlyer said:

Did you just point the installer at your P3Dv4 root file, or how did you do it?

 

In my case, I left the scenery installed in my FSX folder and simply added two lines to the P3D scenery.cfg file, pointing to the two VanPlus entries.

Looks great!

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15 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

In my case, I left the scenery installed in my FSX folder and simply added two lines to the P3D scenery.cfg file, pointing to the two VanPlus entries.

Looks great!

Thanks Bert for this tip I was wondering about doing exactly this for Van 3 and other addons.  Vancouver is one of my favorite cities been there a number of times over the years.

Bruceb

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I have it working, and with autogen up to the edge of the world it looks simply stunning and performs that much better than in previous versions. So I can at least tell you it can be done.

I doubt it's just adding lines to scenery.cfg, though. There are 48 additional terrain.cfg entries being a bit tricky to add and if I am not mistaken also some more directories (effects?) involved.

Unfortunately, I didn't take notes either when I installed it months ago, but in any case I did it without the Estonian thingy. There are some remarks scattered by Holger Sandmann (one of the authors) and Poppet Elaine (which actually are for Prepar3d3 but apply despite). As a start, there are a few remarks by Holger in the FsAddon forum

http://fssupport.com/fsaddonforum/index.php?topic=34.0

(scroll down, it's not only for TF) with more scattered on the ORBX forum and AVSIM. Somehow, I managed to combine them and got it to work, as far as I can tell properly (up to, maybe, night lighting, as I never fly at night).

Kind regards, Michael

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The terrain.cfg entries are only needed if you use the scenery without ftx pnw.  The original scenery included custom landclass and textures for much of southern BC in addition to the city.  ftx pnw made all of that redundant.  In either case, I never copied the terrain.cfg entries over in my install, I just checked the ftx compatibility option in the vancouver control panel.

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Poppet sure did a masterful job illustrating exactly what to do for installing both Tongass Fjords and UT2 into Prepare3Dv4. :biggrin:

I have followed both sets of instructions and enjoy them immensely. :ampun: Hope she is watching this thread and feels like stepping up once again!

How about one of you that have made Vancouver Plus work putting a step by step guide together for rather slow witted old fellows like me? :blink:

Kind regards,

 

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6 minutes ago, SpiritFlyer said:

Poppet sure did a masterful job illustrating exactly what to do for installing both Tongass Fjords and UT2 into Prepare3Dv4. :biggrin:

I have followed both sets of instructions and enjoy them immensely. :ampun: Hope she is watching this thread and feels like stepping up once again!

How about one of you that have made Vancouver Plus work putting a step by step guide together for rather slow witted old fellows like me? :blink:

Kind regards,

 

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37 minutes ago, DJJose said:

Looking for this:

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Yes sir, Exactly that for P3Dv4! How (exactly) did you do it? :huh:

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Those pics look great.  Jon Patch did an amazing job over the years until his untimely death.  Too bad this amazing addon will never be updated.  RIP Jon.

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14 minutes ago, SpiritFlyer said:

Yes sir, Exactly that for P3Dv4! How (exactly) did you do it? :huh:

I had an old backup copy of FSX and just to test it for you I copied the main VanPlus v3 folder and added the sceneries manually, but despite the fact that it looks good it still doesn't perform well at all. I had FTX PNW so I did not have to mess with the config. Performance, was the primary reason why I never installed it in again. FPS are low and there are some stutters.

Someone with a better rig might have better results.

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14 minutes ago, DJJose said:

I had an old backup copy of FSX and just to test it for you I copied the main VanPlus v3 folder and added the sceneries manually, but despite the fact that it looks good it still doesn't perform well at all. I had FTX PNW so I did not have to mess with the config. Performance, was the primary reason why I never installed it in again. FPS are low and there are some stutters.

Someone with a better rig might have better results.

Not sure my rig is better, or I have lower settings, but it performs nicely on my vintage  4770K@4.1 - GTX770 system..

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18 minutes ago, HUSSAR said:

Those pics look great.  Jon Patch did an amazing job over the years until his untimely death.  Too bad this amazing addon will never be updated.  RIP Jon.

Yes Robert, Jon brought a great deal of talent and direction to our flight sim world. He was a giant. Even still, Vancouver Plus version 3 should be highly adaptable to P3D v4 one way or another.

12 minutes ago, DJJose said:

I had an old backup copy of FSX and just to test it for you I copied the main VanPlus v3 folder and added the sceneries manually, but despite the fact that it looks good it still doesn't perform well at all. I had FTX PNW so I did not have to mess with the config. Performance, was the primary reason why I never installed it in again. FPS are low and there are some stutters.

Someone with a better rig might have better results.

I remember poor performance as well in FSX. However, the details and extra smaller airports were such charmers.

Does Holger have much to say on how to utilize? Seems a shame just to let it stale date into obscurity.

BTW, here is a link into Popett's step-by-step for Tongass Fjords.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/491556-installing-tongass-fjords-x-prepar3d-v3-v4/

Kind regards,

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Tried it in v4 - works fine so far.... I remember it in FSX days combined with PNW and FSDT CYVR it brought any CPU to its knees ( especially with the NGX) And would OOM almost all the time.

Using a 7700k and P3d v3/v4 works like a charm now. Taking off and landing a CYVR at 30FPS+ is a treat.

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1 hour ago, planechaser said:

Tried it in v4 - works fine so far.... I remember it in FSX days combined with PNW and FSDT CYVR it brought any CPU to its knees ( especially with the NGX) And would OOM almost all the time.

Using a 7700k and P3d v3/v4 works like a charm now. Taking off and landing a CYVR at 30FPS+ is a treat.

Hi Planechaser,

Exactly how did you port it over to P3D?

Kind regards,

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13 minutes ago, SpiritFlyer said:

Hi Planechaser,

Exactly how did you port it over to P3D?

Kind regards,

Stephen,

If I were you, I would install FSX, then VanPlus v3, make the adjustments in the config by enabling PNW and disabling everything else, then copy the files to P3D v4. Add the sceneries manually. Since you have FTX PNW, you don't need the Terrain.cfg entries.

 

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for my own install, despite me not remembering whether I had the estonian migrator on or not, I just installed it and ran the config, added the sceneries and then flew and it worked fine.  this was co-developed by Holger, so no compatibility issues with ftx unless you don't check the ftx option in the config

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On ‎8‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 11:16 AM, planechaser said:

Tried it in v4 - works fine so far.... I remember it in FSX days combined with PNW and FSDT CYVR it brought any CPU to its knees ( especially with the NGX) And would OOM almost all the time.

Using a 7700k and P3d v3/v4 works like a charm now. Taking off and landing a CYVR at 30FPS+ is a treat.

Hello Plane chaser. Can you give me a detail of exactly what files to copy?

I have PD3d V3 installed on another HD with Van plus installed, I used migration tool and it works great in V3 but Man do I want this in V4. SO what scenerys and place it where. Little more detail .... I don't want to mess up V4. I live in Vancouver fly it all the time ,PNW is good but its the little things that made VAN plus and Victoria SO GOOD!

Thanks in Advance.

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I just refer to the two entries: Van+ Higher and Lower Priority in the FSX directory, on a different SSD.

P3D does not have any problems with it.

Try simply adding them in the Scenery Manager.

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Hey Bert did what you said opened up Add scenery in V4 - went to Prepar3d v3 checked  the higher and lower + Victoria folders from V3 Addons and OK. It compiled them and Then V4 Crashed to desk top. Ok got me a little worried but restarted V4 again and went to Langley airport and Voila ,Adrian's restaurant is there and proper runways , took off and all the bridges and even the roller coaster at the PNE . Vancouver is BACK! I am happy as a clam if clams are happy.

It did take a little hit on Frame rates from 50-55 to 30-35 but still smooth, this 64 bit version is a dream compared to V3.

PS what positon in the scenery library is a good spot for van plus to be in ?Right now it is at #2,3 #1 is Dream team YVR I have PNW plus many airports installed.

Thank you Bert Now that was easy!

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21 hours ago, iamcanadian2 said:

Hello Plane chaser. Can you give me a detail of exactly what files to copy?

I have PD3d V3 installed on another HD with Van plus installed, I used migration tool and it works great in V3 but Man do I want this in V4. SO what scenerys and place it where. Little more detail .... I don't want to mess up V4. I live in Vancouver fly it all the time ,PNW is good but its the little things that made VAN plus and Victoria SO GOOD!

Thanks in Advance.

I just used the Estonia Migration Tool to point to the main P3d folder. It then should install in its own directly FSADDON- then 2 folders VANPLUS HIGHER  VANPLUS LOWER.

I don't know if it will work outside the main P3d folder via addon.xml. Although recommended by LM , some older sceneries have to install in the main sim folder or will not work properly.

Plus if you run Orbx PNW/NRM , you have to set that in the configurator tool .

Originally I tried to copy the folders manually ( without the EMT) ,but get a large amount of error messages. 

If you want to be completely safe , make a backup of your P3d folder before using anything with the Estonia Migration Tool. Therefore , if anything goes astray, you can easily return back .

Other than that , it runs great and as long as you don't get major stutters,  or big performance issues , CTD's it should be good

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