22 hours ago, carbonbasedlifeform said:

You don't think freeware will be available once the SDK is available? I can't image a reason it would be hard to port it to FSX.

And this looks nicer than little nav map.

I don't know if there will ever be a free moving map in FSW, I just know there is a free one now for P3D.

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Do you feel the same way about P3D? You have to pay for it too for P3D. 

I showed you how P3D users don't have to pay for a moving map, to show you that albx was more correct in his point than you were and now still are.   

I proved you were wrong, and now you try to maneuver yourself to be correct about something else - the future SDK, with its role in a possible free moving map, and the opinion of which moving map is better.. looks nicer...really?

Why don't you just say 'oh, I did not know there was a free and very good moving map for P3D, thank you pracines'.

1 hour ago, pracines said:

I proved you were wrong

Uh huh. I was saying this product, the actual topic of this thread, is also available for P3D, and it costs money. Then you switched the topic to little nav map.

32 minutes ago, carbonbasedlifeform said:

Uh huh. I was saying this product, the actual topic of this thread, is also available for P3D, and it costs money. Then you switched the topic to little nav map.

The specific product for FSW in this topic is not available for P3D. FS Flight Control is available for FSW and P3D but its a much more expensive instructor station.   

albx is correctly laughing because Little Nav Map (an excellent FREE "moving map") is available in P3D.

You responded to albx, and I responded to you in context of your response to albx. In the end albx is still correctly laughing at the topic of this thread.

You need to face the fact that many/most flight simmers are going to compare flight sims.

I only responded to you because you called out P3D by name.   

2 hours ago, pracines said:

I showed you how P3D users don't have to pay for a moving map

Who will have spent more money overall, a P3D user using the freeware moving map, or a FSW user using this moving map addon?

Little nav map dev Alex has said he will look at making it work with fsw once the SDK is out. So it looks like little navmap will be available for fsw after all.

Not that there is anything wrong with these products. You don't have a problem with ezdok or chase plane or other payware do you?

Chris

7 hours ago, FlyBaby said:

But at what point does DTG get to decide

Pretty much the day they paid Microsoft the money for it.

57 minutes ago, Murmur said:

Who will have spent more money overall, a P3D user using the freeware moving map, or a FSW user using this moving map addon?

A better question, to go even further off topic is, will a $50.00 car be better than a $50,000.00 car?

 

sorry for repating myself, but i need to know, if this map works on a network PC. 

3 hours ago, jt8d9a said:

sorry for repating myself, but i need to know, if this map works on a network PC. 

Highly unlikely, it is geared more for single pc use as it is part of steam.

For network use you would need the stand alone version.

Chris

1 hour ago, tutmeister said:

Highly unlikely, it is geared more for single pc use as it is part of steam.

For network use you would need the stand alone version.

Chris

Never liked steam for this exact reason 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, pracines said:

A better question, to go even further off topic is, will a $50.00 car be better than a $50,000.00 car?

Good question. And infact the answer is: it depends. For example, a Ferrari 250 GTO costs like 10 millions of dollar, but is way less reliable, less safe, and less usable than a 10.000$ used Toyota.

So, to return to flight sims: a simmer flying FSW and the payware moving map, will have spent less than a simmer flying P3D and the freeware moving map. Who will have got the better value for his money? Even in this case, the answer is: it depends on what features the user is interested in a flight simulator.

You're criticizing FSW because someone is selling a payware moving map. So what? FSW for example offers advanced weather visuals, while on P3D you need to buy payware addons to improve weather visuals (clouds, precipitations, etc.). Why don't you criticize P3D then?

Every flight sim has some specific features that other flight sims are missing, so I don't see the issue here.

 

Quite frankly, I don't understand some of the folks on this forum.  When FSW was first announced, Many said that they would not support it if third party developers didn't embrace it.  Now that they are, they are still complaining.  Makes no sense, pretty childish actually.  And its no different than any other simulator out there.  They've probably paid hundreds for 3rd party addons for other sims, yet DTG is somehow slighting us because they're not providing everything in the core sim.  I guess it just shows that the haters will always be haters, no matter what DTG does.  Or, they get off on inflaming others.  It just makes them look so ridiculous to others reading the forum.

5 hours ago, Murmur said:

Good question. And infact the answer is: it depends. For example, a Ferrari 250 GTO costs like 10 millions of dollar, but is way less reliable, less safe, and less usable than a 10.000$ used Toyota.

So, to return to flight sims: a simmer flying FSW and the payware moving map, will have spent less than a simmer flying P3D and the freeware moving map. Who will have got the better value for his money? Even in this case, the answer is: it depends on what features the user is interested in a flight simulator.

You're criticizing FSW because someone is selling a payware moving map. So what? FSW for example offers advanced weather visuals, while on P3D you need to buy payware addons to improve weather visuals (clouds, precipitations, etc.). Why don't you criticize P3D then?

Every flight sim has some specific features that other flight sims are missing, so I don't see the issue here.

 

The issue is, I responded to carbons attack on P3D with incorrect information, I did not criticize FSW. And here you are taking my presentation and defense of the truth, as an attack of FSW. Show me where I attacked or criticized FSW. 

1 hour ago, pracines said:

The issue is, I responded to carbons attack on P3D with incorrect information, I did not criticize FSW. And here you are taking my presentation and defense of the truth, as an attack of FSW. Show me where I attacked or criticized FSW. 

Folks, let's not let this thread turn into a Urinary Olympiad please. Shamelessly borrowing a term from my fellow mod Bob.

1 hour ago, pracines said:

The issue is, I responded to carbons attack on P3D with incorrect information, I did not criticize FSW. And here you are taking my presentation and defense of the truth, as an attack of FSW. Show me where I attacked or criticized FSW. 

That is fine, but then you said: "In the end albx is still correctly laughing at the topic of this thread."

Why "correctly laughing"? Because one needs to buy a moving map in FSW, while there's one freeware available for P3D? But there are some other features that FSW has and must be instead added to P3D with payware addons.

Examples: Accufeel, ORBX textures, precipitation effects, cloud textures, etc. (incidentally, all of these features are actually more important than a moving map for those simmer whose priority is realistic operations and visuals).

EDIT: Sorry for the hijacking, I explained my point and I'll stop here.