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Ultimate Terrain UTX vs ORBX Vector

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Hi Folks,

Long time Ultimate Terrain UTX user - but due to the sale - figured I'd spring for the global coverage of Vector... Is it my imagination or is UTX terrain far more detailed and precise than that provided by Vector ? It seems that many of the shorelines are extremely blocky or almost look hand drawn in Vector... Is it me or has anyone else done a comparison ?

Thanks...

Regards,
Scott

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I would go for UTX. I have both and with Vector, it creates many elevation problems that can't be solved by simply using the config tool.

All the best.

C Z Mulgrave

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Hi Folks,

Thanks...

Buyers remorse ?

LOL...

Regards,
Scott

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40 minutes ago, mulgrave said:

Hi

 

I would go for UTX. I have both and with Vector, it creates many elevation problems that can't be solved by simply using the config tool.

All the best.

C Z Mulgrave

Strange, I have both and now I only use Orbx with my current build and I don’t have any elevation issues that couldn’t be fixed with the config tool. I’m even using Mesh by Pilot and still no unfixable issues.

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I've switched away from Vector to UTX.  Since I only fly in the US, it wasn't that expensive of a move.

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I had UTX for a long time and contemplated if I should buy ORBX. Finally, I did, flew around with it, and decided to go back to UTX. Spent money for nothing.

With UTX I have way more precise streets and coastlines. I know couple of cities relatively good, and I can say that UTX rivers and coastlines are way better, roads are better placed. Autogen looks better, realistically placed.

And performance with UTX is marginally better (not that it really matters, but it's why I said marginally).

Since I generally fly airliners, and most of my airports are in EU and USA, I couldn't care less if I had more or less coverage over any other area. Being at FL350 doesn't really depict much of the scenery.

And I can tell you it was quite a fast decision.

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Hi Folks,

Yeah - I have UTX v2 - for the US and Caribbean - wanted to do some flights into Canada and Alaska - probably should have went the UTX v2 route on that as well (no v2 Alaska)... Lesson learned...

I think I may remove Vector - pick up UTX Canada and wait for UTX Alaska...

Aside from the better resolution in UTX - I think the roads in Vector looked better - didn't stand out as much as UTX and blended with the terrain - but what's up with those railroad textures in Vector - they're awful...

Regards,
Scott

 

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57 minutes ago, scottb613 said:

Aside from the better resolution in UTX - I think the roads in Vector looked better - didn't stand out as much as UTX and blended with the terrain

Just as an FYI, the road widths and textures can be adjusted in UTX.  Nick Needham provides some very good guidance on configuring UTX here: http://www.simforums.com/forums/setup-utx-all-versions-update-new-lights-settings_topic46147.html#277860

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Hi...

Thanks - I'll take a look - as I didn't really care for the default ones in UTX - the roads and tracks always seem to be a tad overdone in the sim... Honestly - other than the initial install - I haven't looked at the interface much - seemed more complex than the one we had in FS9...

OBTW - didn't really care for the "wave" effects in Vector either... LOL - I know - I'm picky...

Regards,
Scott

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2 hours ago, mulgrave said:

Hi

 

I would go for UTX. I have both and with Vector, it creates many elevation problems that can't be solved by simply using the config tool.

All the best.

C Z Mulgrave

Hi, I am not familiar with UTX, so need to investigate. I have Global, Vector, and LC + regions. And i do have lots of elevation problems with some airports, especially FSDT. Should I uninstall vector, and install UTX - or how does that work? Thanks for any info or recommendations.

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Hi Lennie,

I only started with Vector last weekend - however - did you go into the control panel for Vector and disable AEC (Airport Elevation Corrections) for the airports you are having trouble with - this fixed the ones I was having trouble with - so far...

Regards,
Scott

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Hi Scott,

Yes I ran AEC several times. Did not help KSDF and KDFW, both are useless for me. If I uninstalled vector and loaded UTX would that possibly help?

 

Lennie

 

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4 minutes ago, lennie said:

Hi Scott,

Yes I ran AEC several times. Did not help KSDF and KDFW, both are useless for me. If I uninstalled vector and loaded UTX would that possibly help?

 

Lennie

 

Also a local airport that I flew to often in the Warrior, KCHO sits on a plateau about 30+ feet high all around. Really comical!!

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I have both and prefer UTX also.

 

Vic

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UTX looks good, is really FPS friendly, and zero issues. 

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I use both UTX and Vector.

I feel that Vector ( US only) has better water depiction. More water bodies than UTX. For example, small streams in Vector are depicted as actual water bodies ,not just a land texture file. The colour is a very light blue.I presume that UTX was developed like that to save on VAS , however now that most of us are in the 64 bit era, its irrelevant.

In contrast , UTX in Canada is better. There are small ponds all over Alberta SK and MB that Vector leaves out , but UTX includes. Plus you can configure them via season ( showing up as dry ponds in the summer/fall, but ponds full of water in the springtime).

UTX is more configurable though , road sizes can be adjusted , where Vector you cannot.

Generally if you fly most of your flights in Canada or Europe, use UTX , if it is the US  I would go Vector.

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35 minutes ago, planechaser said:

For example, small streams in Vector are depicted as actual water bodies ,not just a land texture file. The colour is a very light blue.I presume that UTX was developed like that to save on VAS , however now that most of us are in the 64 bit era, its irrelevant.

This is what made me finally (reluctantly) set aside UTX USA.  Bought Vector a few days ago but still haven't had time to fly it enough to compare.  All I know is that I was tired of the "Metallic Blue" streams in UTX.

Greg

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On 11/28/2017 at 0:16 PM, scottb613 said:

Hi Folks,

Long time Ultimate Terrain UTX user - but due to the sale - figured I'd spring for the global coverage of Vector... Is it my imagination or is UTX terrain far more detailed and precise than that provided by Vector ? It seems that many of the shorelines are extremely blocky or almost look hand drawn in Vector... Is it me or has anyone else done a comparison ?

Thanks...

Regards,
Scott

In FSX I had all UTX, a mixture of Aerosoft airports and thought it looked ok. But this with early aircraft that were all from fs9. I fiddled about with all the various UTX settings and it didn't look any different.

Now I have P3dv4 and an entire planet covered in Orbx regions, Vector and Orbx airports. I have one FSDT (KLAX).

Flying over PNW and Friday Harbour this evening in the new Milviz Beaver Amphibian, at sunset, I was in that zone of "suspension of disbelief". Added to with weather from AS4 and REX Soft Clouds/Texture Direct. For me, it was as close as it gets to being there. The only thing missing was the smell if oil, avgas and leather.

I haven't seen UTX since early FSX days, but I think it best if you get one or the other and just stick to that. I wouldn't like to mix the two products.

Where I live, in the English Lake District, those lakes, rivers, roads and mountains are spot on. I just need a Tornado to use in P3dv4 and I will be a happy chap!:cool:

Cheers!

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I am running low on my Flight Sim funds.....and have been researching this for a week now...and what really sucks is that every single post anywhere is from over a year ago..  Has anyone anything to say about any of these products since I believe they have been updated since 2017.  I fly mostly midwest and northeast USA but I do like to jump over and do some international flying....Alaska, Hawaii, andes and Himalayas mountains, Ukraine, Philippines, Irkutsk Russia, Hong Kong, South Africa, Italy....all areas I have lived..  I fly low and I fly high...  When I fly around my local airports or the airports where I went to flight school (NH) I want to see real roads, rivers, lakes, etc...  I have great mesh to see the mountains, hills, and valley's the way they really are....  But the rest is just as important to me.  I really do wish to know which is the best as of October 2018?    

I am currently moving completely to Prepar3D v4(.3).   I have many of the Orbx products but have not decided on Vector yet.  I used UTX for years in FSX and loved it.  But I also can't do those damned blue lines for streams anymore.  Prepar3D has me spoiled when it comes to water...  

So...again, looking for updated reviews...  And if you can give comparisons....apples to apples, oranges to oranges....all the better for me and others that I am sure are also wondering WHICH is the one we wish to invest our $ in..

 

Thanks,

Greg

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Really?  Nothing major has changed. The reviews are essentially the same for the same reasons. New areas have been released so that expands the products but the pros and cons remain the same. New people are using the same products so they will have new opinions.

I do not see this going anywhere new so I'm shutting it down.

Vic

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