24 minutes ago, Boomer said:

Alcohol should not be served on airlines nor sporting events.  The former is a potential hazard and the latter there are families and children present.

My thoughts are, they are intoxicated when the get on the plane! So what, band alcohol in the Airport. ?

49 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

My thoughts are, they are intoxicated when the get on the plane! So what, band alcohol in the Airport. ?

Sure.  Why is alcohol needed at all.  Why is someone else's dependency or addiction my problem?

9 minutes ago, Boomer said:

Sure.  Why is alcohol needed at all.  Why is someone else's dependency or addiction my problem?

restaurants

concerts

cruises

dinner party's

casinos

golf clubs

country clubs

sport arenas

I mean the list is endless. Im guessing you avoid them all.. its a bit sad you limit your life like that because of a few trouble makers. Believe it or not the majority are neither dependent or alcoholics and its a shame you see it like that.

 

1 hour ago, zmak said:

restaurants

concerts

cruises

dinner party's

casinos

golf clubs

country clubs

sport arenas

I mean the list is endless. Im guessing you avoid them all.. its a bit sad you limit your life like that because of a few trouble makers. Believe it or not the majority are neither dependent or alcoholics and its a shame you see it like that.

 

There are more than a few trouble makers, dude you do not know how to count.  A man or woman with alcohol in my face will know then I have anger management issues against those who consciously and willingly choose to become a nasty drunk in my face.  Someone with excess alcohol is a locked and loaded weapon that does not feel pain, an animal. One kills animals to lower the wild animal population, it is killing, not murder to put those and the society they infect with their so called illness out of our misery. It is the one crime which I believe the death penalty is still warranted.  It is euthanasia for them and mercy for the rest of us.  Anyone who rises to their defense is just as bad as they are.

 

12 hours ago, Bluestar said:

One of the great things about not flying self-loading cargo is I didn't have to deal with these type issues. 

I hear you.

There are times and places for everything.  Zmack's list is reasonable except maybe for sports arenas where emotions can run high especially if your team is losing and you want to take it out on someone.  Alcohol lowers your inhibitions and anger surfaces.

We don't allow smoking tobacco on aircraft or on trains (in the US) or in restaurants because of the effect it has others.

I would say banning alcohol on flights where crowding tends to make people uncomfortable and irritable any little thing can set them off it is appropriate.  If you can't want a few hours before your next drink you have a problem. 

I believe anyone who is obviously intoxicates is not allowed to board a flight anyway.

Noel

46 minutes ago, birdguy said:

There are times and places for everything.  Zmack's list is reasonable except maybe for sports arenas where emotions can run high especially if your team is losing and you want to take it out on someone.  Alcohol lowers your inhibitions and anger surfaces.

We don't allow smoking tobacco on aircraft or on trains (in the US) or in restaurants because of the effect it has others.

I would say banning alcohol on flights where crowding tends to make people uncomfortable and irritable any little thing can set them off it is appropriate.  If you can't want a few hours before your next drink you have a problem. 

I believe anyone who is obviously intoxicates is not allowed to board a flight anyway.

Noel

The only times I have had alcohol on aircraft are on long haul flights when I cannot sleep.  I become an introverted, slightly tipsy drunk and just curl up into a little ball and sleep off the growing jet lag, like I did on the beginning of my flights too and from London last year where free alcohol was served in premium economy.  I am so light now that one drink, and I am gone.  Then I have one e-cig when I get home which counteracts the remaining alcohol and wakes me back up.  I get slightly sociable with the flight attendants who do not seem to mind but if my seatmate does not want to be bothered, I do not bother them especially if it a lady.  It is not classy to drink and bother women if they do not want to be bothered, IMHO or the other way around.  If I drink more than every few months it is too much for me except for alcohol in some medicines which cannot be prevented, although I try to opt for alcohol free medicine which is becoming more common, especially those with sugar alcohol substitutes.

As long as someone who drinks is not in my face I am fine with their personal choice.  Same goes for a Marijuana user which is now legal in Arizona, widely legal, for medicinal purposes which although anecdotally proven is not accepted by big and bigger pharma, which has the federal government in its back pocket and tries to stop it.

Had medical Marijuana been available to my mother and father when they had cancer it would have been better than opiates which severely incapacitate the patient and has ever reducing benefit for pain.  I found I had to hide opiates from my mother at the request of her hospice team because they were causing her terrible medical discomfort in her final days.  Only warm food comforted her in the end even though hospice cruelly wanted to withhold it from her.  I have been around four people who suffered and died, both my parents and both my brothers.  Death in that form is a cruel enemy, not a friend and yes, I do have terrible survivors guilt.

John

Edited April 22, 20188 yr by John_Cillis

A lot of talk on here about alcohol, I would like to know what pills she was popping, if any. So many prescribed and over the counter pills these days as coping mechanisms and they too are also effected by low pressurized cabins, and a drink on top of that certainly contributes as well. Amazing how life stresses can drive a person this far over the edge

Edited April 22, 20188 yr by Matthew Kane

We have received reports and I think this topic is rapidly going off topic and becoming inciting for many.  Topic closed.