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Much better performance in P3D V4.3

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17 hours ago, captain420 said:

Hahah gotta love flight simming. VFR in a 747. 🙂

Looks very nice, what scenery and cloud, weather, texture addons are you using? Are you using some sort of shader presets because the default P3D v4.3 is very washed out. However in the video, the colors look very nicer.

I made my own PTA preset, happy to share if you like.

I have ORBX Global and Orbx LC, REX skyforce for textures, AS p3dV4 for weather. 

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22 hours ago, Avidean said:

I am not saying that V4.3 is not an improvement over 4.2. It certainly is but in regards to performance, appearance and Dynamic lighting it looks about the same to me and performs about the same.

In the Dynamic lighting video in some instances the FPS is higher in 4.2 and in others higher in 4.3.

Sorry to see that you are having s bad experience with 4.3

When it specifically comes to dynamic lighting, I have seen at least a 40% increase in fps; with some scenarios giving double the performance. 

This is on an 8700k OCed to 4.8 GHz and a 1080ti running a 4k monitor. 

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Removed excessive quote.

FAA: ATP-ME, 737 CA, enough time in the 757/767 to be dangerous 🤠

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1 hour ago, aceridgey said:

So, yep a lot of negative press about my video, fine. 

 

1 hour ago, aceridgey said:

Apologies if the video offended a number of you

There is no negative press about your video. The video is great as anyone can see. I doubt if anyone is taking offense either. There is no real substantive moral issue to take offense too.

What I and others are taking exception too is the title of this thread and the title of the video which I see you have changed. I believe you used the the word "Huge" increase in performance originally if I am not mistaken.

So lets take a look at your last posted presumably P3D V4.2 video:

So your contention is that your latest V4.3 video shows a "Huge" performance increase over the one above? They where both made on your system right? So presumably the "Huge" performance increase occurred on this system? I am not seeing it, they look about the same performance to me.

Never mind that Huge performance increase what about this one:

A smooth 60FPS in London city with all the sliders to the right no doubt! Now that's unreal. I'm almost convinced that this is one of those doctored videos I was referring to earlier but you wouldn't do that would you.😁

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13 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

Sorry to see that you are having s bad experience with 4.3

I actually having a very good experience with 4.3 so far, I'm just not delusional or worse still lying about it.

 

14 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

I have seen at least a 40% increase in fps; with some scenarios giving double the performance.

I'll happily call BS on that one!

I installed .3 yesterday.  Did a test flight PMDG T7, FSDT KLAX, PTA, REX, AS, ASCA, ORBX SoCal, OpenLC, etc., and FS Global.

I get a fewer stutters but lots of blurs.

So in short, the only change I see...I get more blurs and less stutters.

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4 minutes ago, Dreamflight767 said:

So in short, the only change I see...I get more blurs and less stutters.

UH! I am sorry to hear that I was hoping for less blurries😢

49 minutes ago, Avidean said:

I actually having a very good experience with 4.3 so far, I'm just not delusional or worse still lying about it.

 

I'll happily call BS on that one!

You can call what you want....but dont accuse me of lying. 

 

I could only get about 20fps in the pmdg 747 at flightveams ksfo at night with all the aircraft lights turned on as well as dynamic lighting enabled for the airport. Now I'm getting rock solid 30 fps. 

At FBs KMSP at night with the maddog I could only get maybe 15 fps. Now I'm getting high 20s. 

All these numbers were noticed while in the VC.

if you do a lot of spot plane viewing....sorry, your performance wont be much better.

Its apparent that you're bitter for whatever reason, maybe because your computer still csnt handle the sim. Who knows. But I would be glad to post some screenshots of what I'm seeing. Look at the frame counter in top left.

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I can only report what this upgrade is giving me. These are my results...

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+5 on the blurs - i have the same- unbelievable

53 minutes ago, Avidean said:

I'll happily call BS on that one!

Not so fast.  I am also seeing a pretty significant performance in regards to dynamic lighting.  PMDG aircraft I am seeing 30 FPS where before I was in the 20-24 FPS range when at FB KMSP at night.  

Matt Wilson

29 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

but dont accuse me of lying

I am not calling you a liar but you are not making an apples to apples comparison and anyone who has been around flight sim long enough knows that's a fact. If you are seeing that much of a difference your .cfg fill has changed from V4.2 to V4.3 or your addons have been change or are not functioning as before.

You did not see a 40% increase in frame rates or doubling of "Performance" going from one point release of Prepar3D V4 to another on the same system with the same .cfg and the same addons functioning in the same scenario. You may think you did but you didn't! PERIOD! You and anyone else spouting this BS is wrong. You have not made a legitimate comparison.

Even the know beta tester and reliable source on high end hardware Rob Ainscough in his post in this thread said: " To sum V4.3, I get less "long frames", I'm not going to make any FPS claims or % FPS improvement, only that I get less long frames using the same graphics settings with updated 3rd party add-ons with my same hardware."

Now I wish and I am sure along with plenty of others that all of you spinning BS hype about 4.3 would just stop. It is raising false expectation in the community that will not be meet and hence leave many who update and even purchase Prepar3D V4 disappointed.

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2 minutes ago, Avidean said:

I am not calling you a liar but you are not making an apples to apples comparison and anyone who has been around flight sim long enough knows that's a fact. If you are seeing that much of a difference your .cfg fill has changed from V4.2 to V4.3 or your addons have been change or are not functioning as before.

You did not see a 40% increase in frame rates or doubling of "Performance" going from one point release of Prepar3D V4 to another on the same system with the same .cfg and the same addons functioning in the same scenario. You may think you did but you didn't! PERIOD! You and anyone else spouting this BS is wrong. You have not made a legitimate comparison.

Even the know beta tester and reliable source on high end hardware Rob Ainscough in his post in this thread said: " To sum V4.3, I get less "long frames", I'm not going to make any FPS claims or % FPS improvement, only that I get less long frames using the same graphics settings with updated 3rd party add-ons with my same hardware."

Now I wish and I am sure along with I am plenty of others that all of you spinning BS hype about 4.3 would just stop. It is raising false expectation in the community that will not be meet and hence leave many who update and even purchase Prepar3D V4 disappointed.

To be fair I think he is referring to the increase in performance when dynamic lighting is in play.

Matt Wilson

24 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

To be fair I think he is referring to the increase in performance when dynamic lighting is in play.

There is no noticeable performance difference when Dymanic lighting is in play in the same scenario on the same system with the same addons and the same .cfg:

His evidence to the contrary is two completely different screen shots showing two different FPS's. (So what!)

My evidence is two virtually identical recordings showing in some parts 4.2 with slightly higher FPS and other parts 4.3 with slightly higher fps. Other than that the lighting is identical. Again here is the evidence:

The huge performance increase brigade are FOS! It's a fact and everyone who has been around FS for some time knows this to be true.

 

55 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

Its apparent that you're bitter for whatever reason, maybe because your computer still csnt handle the sim. Who knows. But I would be glad to post some screenshots of what I'm seeing. Look at the frame counter in top left.

Well if you have Flytampa CYYZ, NGX and ORBX GLOBAL, OPENLC and Vector, I send you my .cfg and the .fsr file and flytampa setting and you can post a video of how you system handles it.

Anyway, I've had enough of this. I can't believe the extent to which the number of people in this community who are clueless has grown.

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Dude.

Can I get ya sumpthin' to drink? 😊

Just call me a happy flyer,

Mark

ahsmatt7, list all the addons, scenery you're running in that screenshot where you're getting a 40% increase. Try parking at A5 gate in the same plane, at dusk/dawn, with all dynamic lights turned inside the VC, storm light etc, and report what you get. Usually your fps at the gate is less than at the runway, and of course it also depends on other things such as the direction your plane is facing and if you have AI traffic, etc. There are too many variables.

I went from P3D v4.1 directly to 4.3, I did a clean install btw and reinstalled about 70% of my add-ons, I'm seeing mild improvements in certain situations but nothing extremely noticeable.

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2 hours ago, aceridgey said:

I made my own PTA preset, happy to share if you like.

I have ORBX Global and Orbx LC, REX skyforce for textures, AS p3dV4 for weather. 

Do you have any screenshots that I can see? or was the 1st youtube video in your post yours with the PTA preset running?

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