July 12, 20187 yr Hi All, I would like to inquire if the Aerosoft Bus is a study level Sim or is it like the previous Airbus which they relesed before. Either way, it's a great product and Thank you Aerosoft for this. Regards Dushantha Baduge
July 12, 20187 yr Aerosoft say their Airbus Professional is a casual sim but it seems study"ish" level for normal operations based on the feature list. It's definitely a lot more in-depth than their previous Airbus product, but it's still not PMDG nor FS Labs because AS don't simulate non-normal ops (failures etc). There's a list of MCDU/FMGS new features at http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/132869-fmgs-mcdu/ And system features at http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/132870-systems/ Some stuff is missing until SP1 though http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/133133-whats-not-available-whats-wrong/ If you wait until SP1 comes out and is reviewed properly you'll have a better idea if it's deep enough for you. Edited July 12, 20187 yr by ckyliu ckyliu, proud supporter of ViaIntercity.com. i5 12400F, 32GB, RTX4070, more in "About me" on my profile.
July 12, 20187 yr Author 2 minutes ago, ckyliu said: Aerosoft say their Airbus Professional is a casual sim but it seems pretty study level to me for normal operations based on the feature list. It's definitely a lot more in-depth than their previous Airbus product, but it's not quite PMDG and definitely not FS Labs because they don't simulate non-normal ops (failures etc). There's a list of MCDU/FMGS new features at http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/132869-fmgs-mcdu/ And system features at http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/132870-systems/ Some stuff is missing until SP1 though http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/133133-whats-not-available-whats-wrong/ If you wait until SP1 comes out and is reviewed properly you'll have a better idea if it's deep enough for you. Thank you for your reply.Really Appreciate it. Regards. Dushantha Baduge
July 13, 20187 yr 28 minutes ago, ckyliu said: Aerosoft say their Airbus Professional is a casual sim but it seems study"ish" level for normal operations based on the feature list. It's definitely a lot more in-depth than their previous Airbus product, but it's still not PMDG nor FS Labs because AS don't simulate non-normal ops (failures etc). There's a list of MCDU/FMGS new features at http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/132869-fmgs-mcdu/ And system features at http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/132870-systems/ Some stuff is missing until SP1 though http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/133133-whats-not-available-whats-wrong/ If you wait until SP1 comes out and is reviewed properly you'll have a better idea if it's deep enough for you. It seems that you can categorize it as "study level" as long as you are talking about "Normal Procedures" and not including failures in consideration. It has been said by real commercial pilots (Blackbox 711, I believe) who use these simulations that no airliner available is "study level" when they enter the realm of system failures. The more failures that happen, the less "study level" they are. In other words, an airliner that simulates failures will not takeoff, fly or land accurately with those failures active, but under normal procedures they will be very accurate. So Aerosoft's Airbus doesn't fall short in that sense. Robert Yunque PilotEdge Ratings = CAT-11 (2016-09-13) I-11 (2016-10-23) V-3 (2016-08-01)
July 13, 20187 yr I hate that term so much. It's such a misnomer. You can say that certain add-ons are high-fidelity or vary in depth, but please as a community, let's drop this term from the lexicon of simming. Keep the blue part on top... For the gearheads: Ryzen 9800x3D | ASUS Rog Strix B650E-F | MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X | 64GB DDR5 6000Mhz RAM | NZXT Kraken x72 Cooler | EVGA 1000 PSU
July 13, 20187 yr 11 hours ago, ZLA Steve said: I hate that term so much. It's such a misnomer. You can say that certain add-ons are high-fidelity or vary in depth, but please as a community, let's drop this term from the lexicon of simming. Agreed. "Study-Level" is such a subjective term. Best regards, Neal McCullough
July 13, 20187 yr Would you say that the new AS Airbus Professional has the same features / system depth for normal ops as the previous Airbus SP3? Edited July 13, 20187 yr by Cargostorm Regards, Chris -- PC: Intel 13900K, Gigabyte Geforce RTX 4090, 64GB Fury Beast DDR5 RAM; Display: Varjo Aero VR
July 13, 20187 yr @Cargostorm Well no, given Aerosoft recoded some 70% of it. Find out more about some of the new features: Quote There's a list of MCDU/FMGS new features at http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/132869-fmgs-mcdu/ And system features at http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/132870-systems/ Some stuff is missing until SP1 though http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/133133-whats-not-available-whats-wrong/ If in doubt, wait until some reviews come out for SP1 which will add quite a few features. Edited July 13, 20187 yr by ckyliu ckyliu, proud supporter of ViaIntercity.com. i5 12400F, 32GB, RTX4070, more in "About me" on my profile.
July 13, 20187 yr I wonder what Aerosoft means by "professional". Made by professionals? AImed at professionals (no dont think so)? I remember that I quite enjoyed their airbuses in FSX. For the moment, I fly the FSLabs a319 and I am 100% satisfied. I think there's a market for both. So let's enjoy what seems the best choice for each one of us. Jos
July 13, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, beep747 said: I wonder what Aerosoft means by "professional". Made by professionals? AImed at professionals (no dont think so)? I remember that I quite enjoyed their airbuses in FSX. For the moment, I fly the FSLabs a319 and I am 100% satisfied. I think there's a market for both. So let's enjoy what seems the best choice for each one of us. Jos They seem to be using the word "professional" on products that are developed specifically for P3Dv4. In other words, not for converted products. Edited July 13, 20187 yr by nealmac Best regards, Neal McCullough
July 13, 20187 yr I bought it and tested it. Nice for low-budget folks and beginners, but I don`t think I will touch it much also having the FSL. When the A330 comes out though... Edited July 13, 20187 yr by GCBraun PC1: AMD Ryzen 9800X3D | Zotac RTX 5090 SOLID | Asus TUF X670E-Plus | G.SKILL 64GB DDR5 PC 6000 CL30 | 4TB NVMe | Noctua NH-D15 | Asus TUF 1000W Gold | be quiet! Pure Base 500DX | Noctua NH-D15S | LG OLED CX 48" + 2x Acer Nitro XV240YP 24" + 2x 15.6" Touch-screen Panels PC2: AMD Ryzen 7500F | Asrock 7900 GRE Challenger OC | Gigabyte B650I AX | Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 CL36 | 1TB NVMe | CM Hyper 212 | Corsair 750W Gold | Lian Li TU150 ITX | SAMSUNG Odyssey G9 49" Winctrl Ursa Minor Sidestick + Ursa Minor 32 Throttle & PAC - Thrustmaster Boeing TCA Yoke - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle - MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - TrackIR - Stream Deck XL + Stream Deck Plus - Winctrl MCDU + 2 MFD's - Meta Quest 3 (VR)
July 13, 20187 yr 9 minutes ago, nealmac said: They seem to be using the word "professional" on products that are developed specifically for P3Dv3. In other words, not for converted products. Did you not mean P3dV4? AMD 9800X3D, NZXT X73 RGB AIO COOLER, Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite WIFI7, 64GB 6000MHZ RAM, 4TB Samsung Pro NVME, 4 TB Crucial P3+ NVME, 4TB Crucial SSD, Gigabyte Gaming OC Geforce RTX5090, Antec C8 ARGB Case, X55 JOYSTICK/THROTTLES, LG 4K C4 42" TV/Monitor 120 Hz, 2 Dell 1080 monitors. Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, Bravo Throttle. Thrustmaster TPR Pedals. Moza AB6 FFB Joystick, Pimax Crystal Light VR, Tobii Eye tracker, Steelseries Arctis 7+ Wireless Headphones.
July 13, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, eaim said: Did you not mean P3dV4? Oops, sorry, my mistake. I've now edited it. Best regards, Neal McCullough
July 13, 20187 yr 3 hours ago, GCBraun said: Nice for low-budget folks and beginners Although the AS bus has a checklist with copilot function to assist beginners I always fail to understand how the whole product is just something for beginners. If I do a normal SOP flight from A to B I can push even more buttons, that are required IRL, with the the AS bus then any other P3D bus has at the moment. Sure we do not model 50.000 electrons that zip from system to system but the level of operation is nothing less than any other product. Or do you consider typing in the ZFW and ZFWCG in the AS bus different from doing it with another product for example? Cheers
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