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The Concorde would have been 50 Today

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I was at RAF Fairford then as part of the Support Squadron. Remember it oh so well. Good ole Brian.

Nostalgia and warm memories.

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FlightSim Labs' Concorde will live on in my PC until I myself shuffle off this mortal coil...

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1 hour ago, overspeed3 said:

FlightSim Labs' Concorde will live on in my PC until I myself shuffle off this mortal coil...

If only they would hurry up with the new one!

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I hadn't thought about it but Wow, 50 years. I remember all the hoopla and the construction and first flights. Truly an aviation icon.

 

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When I was at BA LHR, I remember the Singapore Airlines livery on one side and the BA one on the other side. Even in the dead of night, servicing it in readiness for next day's flight was an awe striking sight. Fond memories. Pity Indonesia banned supersonic flights in their airspace. That's what finished it off for that joint venture.

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The most remarkable story I have about Concorde was in the build-up to the total solar eclipse of 30 June 1973. This was a very long eclipse - around 7m 20s, near the theoretical maximum.

Scientists liaised with Air France and loaded their cameras and specialised kit on the aircraft. It took off from Las Palmas and flew in the Earth's shadow for 70 minutes. No other aircraft - even military - could have done that for that length of time with so many people and kit on board.

I remember it well as I was on board MS Monte Umbe along with the late, great Patrick Moore and the BBC's Sky at Night team as we observed the eclipse off the coast of Mauritania. A memory I will take to my grave.

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Nice to read that anecdote, Ray. Yes, I remember how it was a ritual for me,----- long before I gave up tv -----to watch Patrick Moore, regularly once a month..

You too have treasured memories.

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It is easily the best aeroplane I ever went on.

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It's interesting how Jim named this topic. The Concorde... In Britain it's always referred to a just Concorde. Why I know not. Maybe because there were so few of them but certainly more than one. No other aircraft is referred to that way.

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Good Morning Ray. I may be wrong but at the time, when Monsieur Charles De Gaulle was in situ, there was a Le Concordiat between us and France, long before the CAP came into place with foreran the Common Market, hence it was referred to as The Concorde from when, if am not too blurred in my memory as it was a joint French-British venture between Aerospatiale and BAC, Concorde derived its name from.

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Well, the British (as do Canadians) also say "I'm in hospital, or I'm in university" (not "college").  We in the Colonies include "the".  Either way gets the point across...

BTW, will there ever be another Mach 2 passenger airliner?  There are currently rumors afloat out there...

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The Concorde, The 747, The Connie, who cares. That's what makes an international forum so wonderful. We all learn things from others countries. And I will suggest that there are colloquialisms in the UK much the same as in the US, Middle East, Africa, Australia, well you know where I'm headed.

Thanks for reminding us of our interesting language differences, Ray.

 

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Perhaps I am biased, but, rightly or wrongly, I regard Concorde as the zenith of airliner development and, although I can understand the reasons behind its withdrawal, I still can’t help feeling that the airline industry took a step backwards on the sad day of its final commercial flight. I guess I am looking at it through ‘rose-tinted glasses’ but even so it is one of the few iconic airliners withdrawn from service without a replacement in sight.

Bill

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It is a great testament to the French and British engineers that they succeeded where Boeing’s failed. President Kennedy wanted an even faster SST carrying more passengers and threw down the gauntlet to America’s best. Boeing pulled out and the rest is history.

Another remarkable fact. Air needed slowing from supersonic speeds to sub-sonic in just 11 feet. Concorde’s engineers managed that with the variable ramp system at the front of each engine. No ramp and the engines flame out. Clever, very clever.

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3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

It is a great testament to the French and British engineers that they succeeded where Boeing’s failed.

Even more remarkable when you consider that they accomplished this using technology from the 50s/early 60s creating an airliner which was still without an equal and was still still carrying revenue passengers beyond the millennium! Truly amazing engineering!

Bill

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I'll play the devil's advocate on that to offer another take. By the time this tech reaches fruition so many people may be driving electric cars that there will be plenty of fuel for aviation. Either way it is exciting and I hope to see it reach fruition.

Since Lockheed Martin is involved it would be nice to see a model show up in P3D.

But back on topic, Concorde (had to erase "the" :biggrin:) certainly is an engineering marvel and beautiful at that, especially considering how long ago it was designed and without computers.

Ted

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EVs will overrun the market in less than 5 years. Asia and Europe will see to that. Other than Tesla, the US will be left behind.

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Hopefully you are right!

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It's not a climate change-related prediction. EVs are simpler to maintain, quieter and more powerful. Once consumers overcome their fear of having to plug in every 5 minutes, they will realize that ICEVs are as old fashioned as the rotary telephone.

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How did we get from Concorde to electric vehicles? 🙁

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Sorry Ray, looks I started the drift :blush:

Too bad the FSLabs P3Dv4 version of Concorde isn't ready, the 50th anniversary would have been a great time to release it. Regardless, it will be worth the wait.

Ted

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