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Hi, when there is few people in the tower on vatsim i need to fly offline. But i want the same experience with atc and such, does it exist an addon for p3d v4 where you can actually talk to the atc instead of typing it in?

Thanks in advance!

Philip

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VoxATC. I have used it in the past in conjunction with Vatsim: When I started a flight at an airport with no controller online, I launched VoxATC and kept it on until I encountered the first Vatsim controller. However, VoxATC is a bit hit and miss for me at the moment. The second-to-last version worked well with P3D 4.3, but the last version crashes with P3D 4.4. I think there is a demo version, so make sure you test it on your system before purchasing.

Peter

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I will look into that, thank you:D

 

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Pilot2ATC is also a good one. I find it more flexible than VoxATC.

 

Vic

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17 hours ago, Arthur42417 said:

Pilot2ATC is great

 

20 hours ago, vgbaron said:

Pilot2ATC is also a good one. I find it more flexible than VoxATC.

 

Vic

Okay, thank you. 🙂

 

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ProATCx is another good option if you just flying airliners.

Pilot2ATC has a lot more options, but ProATCx is nice if you just want something that just works out of the box with minimal setup.

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I do love ProATCx as well, It's the one I use.  It should be said that it is a menu based ATC, and not one that you would actually talk to, as the OP is looking for.

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I agree that ProATC has a lot of plusses also but the OP was looking for something with voice interaction which ProATC doesn't provide IIRC.  

I use both depending on what I feel like doing and  both do their respective jobs well.

Vic

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5 hours ago, itsjase said:

ProATCx is another good option if you just flying airliners.

Pilot2ATC has a lot more options, but ProATCx is nice if you just want something that just works out of the box with minimal setup.

If you've gone through the Microsoft voice recognition training sequence, then Pilot2ATC takes as little setting up as ProATC/X. The only downside to Pilot2ATC is the price of decent add-on voices (for synthesis). I've collected a few over the time I've been using it, usually when there's a sale on by one of the voice file makers,

Pete

 

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6 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

If you've gone through the Microsoft voice recognition training sequence, then Pilot2ATC takes as little setting up as ProATC/X. The only downside to Pilot2ATC is the price of decent add-on voices (for synthesis). I've collected a few over the time I've been using it, usually when there's a sale on by one of the voice file makers,

Pete

 

Hey Pete, do you have an example / recording of how it sounds with a good voice pack pack? I'm interested in the software, though I would like something a tad more natural sounding.

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5 minutes ago, Sethos1988 said:

Hey Pete, do you have an example / recording of how it sounds with a good voice pack pack? I'm interested in the software, though I would like something a tad more natural sounding.

Microsoft speech synthesis is a darn signt more realistic-sounding than pre-recorded real voices as used by, for example, ProATC/X, PF3 and Radar Contact. But they do depend on the quality of the voice packs installed.

They have the additional advantages that the speed can be adjusted (so you can slow them down a bit, for example, when getting used to prgrasing, or for speakers with overseas accents), and they don't need re-recording by all the 'volunteers' to add new phrases or names.

Occasionally the pronunciation is strange. But otherwise the results are excellent. Think Amazon "Alexa", or whatever the Google equivalent is. (Alexa pronounces my home area name "Knypersley" and "nip-pers-ley" for example, instead of "nye-pers-ley" ;-).)

But think £25-35 each voice (full price), maybe half that during sales. I've collected about 20 now (over the last two years, that is).

BTW the other voice-driven alternative, VoxATC, uses the same synthesis system.

There are programs which you can use to use with the others (PF3, ProATC/X, Radar Contact) using voice input, to translate your spoken commands into menu selections, but whilst that was better than button/keypressing (when I used RC) you can't really easily match the selection with any correct ATC phraseology. The menu choices are by key or button press and the same restricted set of numbers apply to many different options, and change according to circumstances. Also it takes a long time to set this all up and made to work in any half-decent way so really you end up telling the system which menu entry to select.

Pete

 

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Pro ATC X works like a charm

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1 hour ago, Pete Dowson said:

If you've gone through the Microsoft voice recognition training sequence, then Pilot2ATC takes as little setting up as ProATC/X. The only downside to Pilot2ATC is the price of decent add-on voices (for synthesis). I've collected a few over the time I've been using it, usually when there's a sale on by one of the voice file makers,

Pete

 

I think just the amount of setttings and how it comes with included profiles for most airliners makes it quicker to setup a flight, especially if you're new to the program.

I'll admit after using both for a while I can setup a flight in both quite fast, but the learning curve for Pilot2ATC was much steeper for me, whereas ProAtcX I felt like i was up and flying much quicker. It might even just be a case of UI simplicity, but Pilot2ATC can seem overwhelming until you get to grips with it.

 

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I have used all the ATC programs, and the one that is the most realistic to me is PF3. Over 140 different voices come standard, so I didn't have to spend hundreds of dollars buying voices, free demo, ATC chatter is talking to actual AI aircraft in the sim. Works for IFR and VFR. 

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I just watched a couple of videos of PF3 and the phraseology that they use doesn't seem very accurate. The controllers are much more verbose than in real life. Radar Contact is much more realistic in that respect, IMO...

 

Russ

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11 hours ago, b1bmsgt said:

Try Radar Contact. It's old, but it works, and best of all, it's free now!!!

 

https://www.icloud.com/#iclouddrive/0pEpnc7H0Y7gmku1afLwZeElg 

 

https://www.icloud.com/#iclouddrive/0Oj5w3UuXoaNzav6270RPct9A

 

This will get you the program and the License Key generator so you can unlock it. Enjoy!

 

 

Russ

Does radar contact automatically support SIDS/STARS?

Or is it like pf3 where you have to manually enter them?

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58 minutes ago, itsjase said:

Does radar contact automatically support SIDS/STARS?

Or is it like pf3 where you have to manually enter them? 

Unfortunately it's a bit weak in that area... it just clears you to follow "published departure procedures" if your first waypoint is within a certain distance from the departure airport. It's up to you to fly the details of the SID. Arrival will be vectors to the assigned runway, but you can request a full IAP approach after that. There's a lot more details that you would have to read the documentation to become familiar with...

Russ

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Thank you everyone for all answers, I wasn’t expecting that at all. Now I’m going to do some research on the different softwares and see which of them I like the most. Thank you🙏 

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On 4/4/2019 at 5:52 PM, b1bmsgt said:

I just watched a couple of videos of PF3 and the phraseology that they use doesn't seem very accurate. The controllers are much more verbose than in real life. Radar Contact is much more realistic in that respect, IMO...

 

Russ

Care to tell us what Phraseology is not accurate, and of course I guess we are talking about the latest version of PF3? 

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Well, I just looked at a few more videos and it's not as bad as I originally thought. I think I was thrown off by the European terminology, as I am in the US and am used to FAA terminology. One thing that I will say that RC has over PF3 is that the voices seem smoother than the ones in PF3. PF3 seems much more clipped than RC. It is very obvious that they are putting individual clips together. RC uses the same method, but they seem to have done it better. Again, JMHO, of course.

 

Russ

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59 minutes ago, b1bmsgt said:

 

Well, I just looked at a few more videos and it's not as bad as I originally thought. I think I was thrown off by the European terminology, as I am in the US and am used to FAA terminology. One thing that I will say that RC has over PF3 is that the voices seem smoother than the ones in PF3. PF3 seems much more clipped than RC. It is very obvious that they are putting individual clips together. RC uses the same method, but they seem to have done it better. Again, JMHO, of course.

 

Russ

I used RC when it first came out for a couple of years. PF3 is a giant step forward. I could never go back to RC.

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19 hours ago, b1bmsgt said:

Well, I just looked at a few more videos and it's not as bad as I originally thought. I think I was thrown off by the European terminology, as I am in the US and am used to FAA terminology. One thing that I will say that RC has over PF3 is that the voices seem smoother than the ones in PF3. PF3 seems much more clipped than RC. It is very obvious that they are putting individual clips together. RC uses the same method, but they seem to have done it better. Again, JMHO, of course.

Russ--If you're not using Nick Schreger's (aka "Meatwater") enhancements for the voices in RC4, I highly recommend them.  He went in and reworked the voice files so that they sound much more fluid/natural when concatenated into a stream.  There's a pinned post in the Radar Contact forum here if you're interested.

PF3 does some things that annoy me intensely, like when checking in to a new controller, it'll say the callsign, then pause for an inordinately long time, like 3-4 seconds, then finish the check-in call.  If you're used to the normal comm flow in a real Center, that's a buzzkill.

Cheers

 

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I’m a PF3 guy after months of trying to understand its quirks but maybe I’ll try radar contact again. 

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