Bert Pieke

Pause at Van Nuys R16R is gone in V4.5.

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This could be major good news for users with Orbx scenery..

Certain locations in Orbx land had very noticeable loading pauses in V4.4.

One of those was at the piano keys on R16R at Van Nuys..

Guess what... just installed V4.5. Client and the pause is gone  :smile:

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Didn't know about this specific issue, but anything positive for the One Six Right is indeed good news !

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2 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

This could be major good news for users with Orbx scenery..

Certain locations in Orbx land had very noticeable loading pauses in V4.4.

One of those was at the piano keys on R16R at Van Nuys..

Guess what... just installed V4.5. Client and the pause is gone  :smile:

Maybe they have solved the scenery lookup pauses?  That would be the best thing to happen since 64-bit.

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Looks like the pause at SFO runway intersections for Flightbeam + Orbx NorCal users is gone as well. Maybe others can verify?

There are still plenty of scenery loading pauses so it seems like any improvements they made are very targeted. 

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!!

This would be major, as my sim always pauses when getting close to airports, major and medium. I always though it was related to UTLive, and it needing to inject a ton of planes through SimConnect, but since I switched away from UTLive to AIG's bgl-based traffic, the pauses continued and in some sense worsened a little, suggesting that it has everything to do with P3D's scenery loading mechanics. While I was always okay with the one pause I'd typically have approaching airports, it becomes a lot more annoying when entering an area that has multiple airports. NYC and LA are the worst offenders for that, and especially LA< where there are at least 5 airports in close proximity (KLAX, KLGB, KSNA, KONT, KVNY) as well as a host of smaller strips.

If you are now telling me that 4.5 eliminates the pauses that typically existed in the LA metropolitan region, than LM have really made P3D much better! Can anybody please confirm pauses around LA? Note: I mean a full-fledged LA, using at least OrbX's SoCal, FSDT's KLAX, LatinVFR's KSNA, and lots of AI traffic. Shez's KLGB is a bonus...

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1 minute ago, Benjamin J said:

If you are now telling me that 4.5 eliminates the pauses that typically existed in the LA metropolitan region, than LM have really made P3D much better! Can anybody please confirm pauses around LA? Note: I mean a full-fledged LA, using at least OrbX's SoCal, FSDT's KLAX, LatinVFR's KSNA, and lots of AI traffic. Shez's KLGB is a bonus...

You must be dreaming... :cool:

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4 hours ago, Chapstick said:

Looks like the pause at SFO runway intersections for Flightbeam + Orbx NorCal users is gone as well. Maybe others can verify?

There are still plenty of scenery loading pauses so it seems like any improvements they made are very targeted. 

I am getting fewer pauses as I fly around LA in Orbx SOCAL also, not all pauses are gone, but it is better..

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1 minute ago, Bert Pieke said:

You must be dreaming... :cool:

1 minute ago, Bert Pieke said:

I am getting fewer pauses as I fly around LA in Orbx SOCAL also, not all pauses are gone, but it is better..

Well, you tell me, am I dreaming...? Seems like the 'dream' is not quite there yet, judging by your own post 😉 I suppose I'll have to install it when of these days and see for myself. Perhaps this weekend.

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8 hours ago, Mace said:

Maybe they have solved the scenery lookup pauses?  That would be the best thing to happen since 64-bit.

does that mean the EGKK pause and have  a cuppa is now gone ?

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1 hour ago, tooting said:

does that mean the EGKK pause and have  a cuppa is now gone ?

Say what Pete?   I don't now what "a cuppa" is, sounds Italian though.  :) 

Can't say I fly into Gatwick enough to comment on EGKK.

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Cue Ray Proudfoot and the prime meridian thread reincarnation! 

Hope this is true 

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1 hour ago, Benjamin J said:

!!

This would be major, as my sim always pauses when getting close to airports, major and medium. I always though it was related to UTLive, and it needing to inject a ton of planes through SimConnect, but since I switched away from UTLive to AIG's bgl-based traffic, the pauses continued and in some sense worsened a little, suggesting that it has everything to do with P3D's scenery loading mechanics.

I do not know if P3D has changed in this regard from FSX.  Per an app called Filemon, FSX would scan all sorts of bgl's on a continual basis as you flew.  Obviously some of that would be from library bgl's.  It was rather odd flying over England, seeing Tokyo.bgl getting accessed, but the thought was that tokyo.bgl contained some object(s) used in England as well.

I do not know if P3D exhibits the same behavior, and I do not know if that is the source of a potential long frame in P3D.  It may be something entirely different, like object LOD's...

I know another potential pause in FSX was when you entered the "AI bubble" around a major airport -- something like 110 nm if memory serves.  I haven't had time to study this in P3D but I thought I would mention it.

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14 minutes ago, kand said:

Cue Ray Proudfoot and the prime meridian thread reincarnation! 

Hope this is true 

Ha ha its true. I normally water the garden while I flare into egkk the pause is that bad. Its been blamed on bgls, the prime meridian, simconnect, sode, gsx.. 

Heaven forbid the coding fsx, ahem sorry P3Dv4 being the issue 

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25 minutes ago, Mace said:

Say what Pete?   I don't now what "a cuppa" is, sounds Italian though.  🙂

Can't say I fly into Gatwick enough to comment on EGKK.

Cuppa is slang for cup of tea 🍵 

 

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7 hours ago, Chapstick said:

Looks like the pause at SFO runway intersections for Flightbeam + Orbx NorCal users is gone as well. Maybe others can verify?

There are still plenty of scenery loading pauses so it seems like any improvements they made are very targeted. 

Sounds great. Always hated the pause at 28r just hundreds of feet before landing and at the 28L crossing 1R

Michael Moe 

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I wonder if this apparent improvement in behaviour of the sim could be related to or a consequence of this positive change:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/552766-p3d-45-is-out/?do=findComment&comment=3992923

While trying to track down the cause of such pauses I noted the restriction of active scenery to that necessary for a particular flight scenario was quite effective in reducing these pause events. Something I would rather avoid having to do in the future. If v4.5 delivers in this regard then that’s to be welcomed and may provide some confirmation that LM were listening to us after all!

Mike

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59 minutes ago, Cruachan said:

 If v4.5 delivers in this regard then that’s to be welcomed and may provide some confirmation that LM were listening to us after all!

Mike

As best I know, Orbx has been talking to LM.. maybe that tipped the scale.. :wink:

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3 hours ago, Cruachan said:

I wonder if this apparent improvement in behaviour of the sim could be related to or a consequence of this positive change:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/552766-p3d-45-is-out/?do=findComment&comment=3992923

While trying to track down the cause of such pauses I noted the restriction of active scenery to that necessary for a particular flight scenario was quite effective in reducing these pause events. Something I would rather avoid having to do in the future. If v4.5 delivers in this regard then that’s to be welcomed and may provide some confirmation that LM were listening to us after all!

Mike

What is the best way to disable various active sceneries nowadays?  Via Lorby's Add-on Organizer?

Some are installed via xml method and others, I guess the old-fashioned way.

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46 minutes ago, Mace said:

What is the best way to disable various active sceneries nowadays?  Via Lorby's Add-on Organizer?

Hi Rhett,

Without any shadow of doubt, yes! I regard P4AO as being an essential tool. During the lifespan of v4.4 Oliver has identified and corrected several deficiencies in the way Prepar3D has been handling things. I’m hoping his valuable input will now be reflected in v4.5.

Mike

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I always got a pause landing Ry 30 at KLGB even with default scenery

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