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Time to back up your systems!!

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Only available at present via the Windows Insider program.

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1 hour ago, w6kd said:

Time to back up your systems!!

And block MS until they get at least most of the kinks/problems/foul-ups worked out.

Greg

Here's an early list: https://www.neowin.net/news/the-windows-10-may-2019-update-still-has-some-known-issues-to-work-out

But it's still the first day of release. :biggrin:

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1 hour ago, Greggy_D said:

Incorrect.  Read the link above.

Or use Microsoft's page https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

Thanks for the correction but even if one downloads today's patch to 1809, the 1903 update is voluntary. Microsoft learned its lesson last October. They figure if you break it you buy it.

From what I can see there doesn't seem to be anything in 1903 that makes a voluntary update worthwhile to me.

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4 hours ago, w6kd said:

Time to back up your systems!!

No Kidding!  Last year's update about this time broke my Chrome browser.  Took me 10 months of searching for a fix to get it working again!

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Volunteering for a Win 10 update is like picking up a warm bottle of nitroglycerin, holding it next to your head, and giving it a couple of shakes.  It makes me cringe just contemplating the possibilities...

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Just did the update to 1903 no problems so far

Did a short flight found loading times in P3DV4.5 were a bit quicker than normal at loading so that was a bonus hope it keeps up

The install was a breeze no hang ups there either

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On my PC windows 10 before 1903, initially with P3D V4.5 not with the hot update I was somewhere with Active Sky, ORBX and PMDG 747 over NYC at 30 steady FPS.

Same conditions and setup with P3D V4.5 HOT FIX my FPS was fluctuating between 25 to 30 and some micro stutters. To mention I have no tweaks at all.

I did a complete uninstall of P3D and loaded the last version with the hot fix included and I found out that the previous version (without hot fix) was smooth and didn't have any micro stutters.

I tried HT on/off and it didn't help me out while Core 0 was constantly at 100%, I assume that V4.5 HF has something to do with it. I did a test with HT ON and affinity mask of 43690 where now core 0 is unloaded and core 1 now it looks to me is the primary used by P3D and my load is somewhere between 80 to 95% while the other cores assigned by JOBSCHEDULER are even used between 50 to 90% and no micro stutters. I will put my config file with the graphics settings for comparison.

I know it's a big debate about this and different opinions, but those are the results on my PC. I still believe there is an issue here.

Now I did the update windows to 1903, I had an issue with my Samsung SSD 970 driver (on benchmarks ssd was showing slow). I had to do the update via Samsung software. 

The overall Windows and P3D performance I would qualify as to be almost negligible, a bit smooth on P3D.

I was quite intrigued about the findings and went for a complete reformat of my drives, new windows and P3D installation (I have nothing else on this PC) and at the end, my PC

turned out to be what I was looking for except that I had to modify my P3D config with the following changes:

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=43690

 [SCENERY]
AUTOGEN_DRAW_DISTANCE=38000.000000

 And the graphics setting that give me a very smooth and fluid P3D (Please note again that on V4.5 without hot fix I didn't have to change anything).

[GRAPHICS]
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=4096
NUM_LIGHTS=4
MIPMAP_VC_PANELS=1
COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1
AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
DYNAMIC_LIGHTING=1
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
LENSFLARE=0
HDR=1
HDR_BRIGHTNESS=1.300000
HDR_BLOOM_MAGNITUDE=0.200000
HDR_SATURATION=1.000000
DYNAMIC_REFLECTIONS=0
SHADOW_QUALITY=2
SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=2
CONTENT_NO_SHADOW=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_CAST=1
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_CAST=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_CAST=0
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_CAST=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_CAST=0
CLOUD_SHADOWS_CAST=1
PARTICLES_SHADOWS_CAST=0
INTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
EXTERIOR_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
SIMOBJECT_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
TERRAIN_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=1
VEGETATION_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
BUILDING_SHADOWS_RECEIVE=0
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_LOW=4
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_MID=5
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_HIGH=7
SHADOW_NUM_CASCADES_ULTRA=12
OPAQUE_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=2048
TRANSLUCENT_SHADOW_TEXTURE_SIZE=512
OPAQUE_SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=2000
TRANSLUCENT_SHADOW_DRAW_DISTANCE=2000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_LOW=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_MID=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_HIGH=0.850000
SHADOW_LOG_PARTITION_ULTRA=0.850000
EFFECTS_QUALITY=1
EFFECTS_DISTANCE=1
[DISPLAY]
SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=30
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0
TEXTURE_FILTERING=16
MSAA=8
SSAA=0
FXAA=0
VSYNC=1
TRIPLE_BUFFER=1
WideViewAspect=0
FullScreenBackground=0
FullScreenAutoFill=1
[PANELS]
PANEL_OPACITY=0
[SCENERY]
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=3
AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_TYPE=0
AUTOGEN_DRAW_DISTANCE=38000.000000
[TERRAIN]
LOD_RADIUS=4.500000
TESSELLATION_FACTOR=75
MESH_RESOLUTION=23
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=28
AUTOGEN_VEGETATION_DENSITY=2
AUTOGEN_BUILDING_DENSITY=5
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1
WATER_REFLECT_CLOUDS=1
WATER_REFLECT_USERAIRCRAFT=1
WATER_REFLECT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFLECT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFLECT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
WATER_REFRACT_CLOUDS=0
WATER_REFRACT_USERAIRCRAFT=0
WATER_REFRACT_SIMOBJECTS=0
WATER_REFRACT_TERRAIN=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_VEGETATION=0
WATER_REFRACT_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS=0
ENABLE_BATHYMETRY=0
WATER_CLARITY=30
WATER_DETAIL=0
[WEATHER]
CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=6
DETAILED_CLOUDS=1
OPTIMIZE_DENSE_CLOUDS=0
CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=8
THERMAL_VISUALS=0
DownloadWindsAloft=0
DisableTurbulence=1
DynamicWeather=0
VolumetricFog=1
DetailedPrecipitation=1
WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1
[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=0
GADensity=0
FreewayDensity=0
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=0
LeisureBoatsDensity=0
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=0
[AContain]
ShowLabels=1
ShowUserLabel=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=1
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=0
ShowLabelDistance=1
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelContainerId=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
LabelDelay=1000
LabelColor=FFFF0000
EnableRibbonVisuals=0
ShowRibbonUserObject=0
ShowRibbonUserAvatar=0
ShowRibbonAircraft=0
ShowRibbonGroundVehicles=0
ShowRibbonBoats=0
ShowRibbonAvatars=0
ShowRibbonWeapons=0
ShowRibbonCountermeasures=0
RibbonThicknessSettingIndex=0
RibbonThicknessSmall=1.000000
RibbonThicknessMedium=5.000000
RibbonThicknessLarge=10.000000
RibbonFidelity=5.000000
RibbonMaxDistance=3218.689941
RibbonFadeTime=-1.000000
RibbonDoNotExceedTime=-1.000000

 

My findings are that this Windows version is finally what people are looking for (in terms of performance, update schedule and operation).

Regarding LM P3D V4.5 HT it looks like they still have ways to go on optimizing the whole software and they need either to listen to beta testers or just new beta testers.

Right now and for along time we keep on having updates with more or less big issues.
 

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21 hours ago, w6kd said:

Time to back up your systems!!

"Danger, Danger, Will Robinson!!"

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5 hours ago, killthespam said:

My findings are that this Windows version is finally what people are looking for (in terms of performance, update schedule and operation).

Glad it all works so well for you... but each of these computers and software combinations are different, so a Win10 Update logically will not go so perfectly for everyone.

With regard to the 1903 Update offering more performance, TechpowerUp has already tested performance of 1903 on both nVidia and AMD video cards and several different games: https://www.techpowerup.com/255843/windows-10-may-2019-update-1903-gaming-performance-tested-in-21-titles-with-rtx-2080-ti-and-radeon-vii

Notice how any difference in performance between 1809 and 1903 easily falls within the margin of error... not even worth considering updating to 1903 for any performance advantage.

Greg

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1 hour ago, lownslo said:

Win10 Update logically will not go so perfectly for everyone.

 

Thanks, I understand that. That's why I mentioned "on my PC". I do hope that will work for the other people as it did for me. 

Regarding the 2080Ti I'll be very honest with you, I had my card returned 2 (twice) for problems and right now I'm still debating if I should put back my 1080 Ti. Somebody was mentioning that they did something with the 2080 Ti but I did not notice any change and the 3rd one in my PC is that is brand new. At least they were behind the warranty, a good thing to see. 

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Remember that it's always better to wait for a big update to be offered, rather than pressing the "Check for updates" button (Microsoft's advice). 

11 hours ago, lownslo said:

Notice how any difference in performance between 1809 and 1903 easily falls within the margin of error... not even worth considering updating to 1903 for any performance advantage.

But, equally there's no disadvantage to running the latest version either, so why not?

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4 hours ago, vortex681 said:

But, equally there's no disadvantage to running the latest version either, so why not?

Because of the risk of a version update breaking an OS install that is already running well.  I've learned to wait when it comes to anything MS associated.  But I do appreciate folks who blindly step-up and install a new version... someone has to beta test MS's products.

Greg

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I'd be careful with 1903, quite a few 0-day exploits have been published already (last time i checked the count was 7), you may want to wait for the first security update if you use your PC for more than just simming. 

However, dId anyone of you brave souls test the new variable refresh rate feature with P3D yet? Would be interesting to see if it improves anything, unlike windows game mode which tends to make things worse in regards to P3D

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Microsoft are rolling out security updates for W XP W7 W8 and W10 OS and IE and EDGE. 

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Microsoft brings variable refresh rate to 1903 for hardware that supports it. 

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Win 10 1903 deprecates backwards compatibility for SHA-1 certificate signatures for kernel-level drivers.  As a result the popular vJoy virtual joystick driver, or other software that depends on it (like Tobii eye-tracking) will no longer work.

Micro$haft strikes again.

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On 5 June 2019 at 7:39 PM, w6kd said:

Win 10 1903 deprecates backwards compatibility for SHA-1 certificate signatures for kernel-level drivers.  As a result the popular vJoy virtual joystick driver, or other software that depends on it (like Tobii eye-tracking) will no longer work.

Micro$haft strikes again.

The SHA1 hash function has been known to have very serious security issues for some years now. MS are just trying to prevent a potential exploit. If they didn't, they would be accused of not taking security seriously enough - they're in a no-win situation.

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4 hours ago, vortex681 said:

The SHA1 hash function has been known to have very serious security issues for some years now. MS are just trying to prevent a potential exploit. If they didn't, they would be accused of not taking security seriously enough - they're in a no-win situation.

So then they should make provisions to allow for exceptions--an explicit user override for individual trusted drivers rather than forcing the user to completely disable all driver signing in order to keep one critical device operating. 

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