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VR Inclusion in MSFS

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13 hours ago, Airmail-Pilot said:

I don't believe that this is true.  If so, why did the poll show "Please sign in or register to vote in this poll."?

Log out, then see this current poll if you want an example.

The software upgrade has plugged the logic hole, so unregistered voting is no longer possible...

...on the other hand, even as a logged-in Administrator I'm unable to even vote in the linked poll you've pointed me towards.

Go figure! :wacko:

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Your lucky. I wouldn't wa

1 minute ago, n4gix said:

The software upgrade has plugged the logic hole, so unregistered voting is no longer possible...

...on the other hand, even as a logged-in Administrator I'm unable to even vote in the linked poll you've pointed me towards.

Go figure! :wacko:

Your lucky, I dont want any part of THAT poll. Lol

16 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

Wow VR actually won the poll?
Looks like there are a bunch of closet VR fans in the forums.

None of the other features on the poll were even close and I thought VR was a .0001% dying tech gimmick???

Seems to be a bunch of more VR users than assumed huh?

Winning the poll means very little in this case as it can't possibly represent a cross section of the members here. We know that only a small minority of flight sim users have VR headsets so even if every vote in the poll had been for VR, that would still only make it the first priority of that minority who have VR headsets.

Also, with regard to your comment about there being a lot more VR users here than we assumed, see: 

You didn't even need to be registered as a member here to vote.

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6 minutes ago, Casualcas said:

Your lucky, I dont want any part of THAT poll. Lol

Well neither would I quite honestly! :laugh:

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1 hour ago, Casualcas said:

Their words, not ours. Lol. Looks like Microsoft and Asobo want to be proactive and not reactive. 

Smart!

3 minutes ago, irrics said:

Smart!

So all this noise about polls, and seasons , VR is all old news and people are arguing to the wind now?

1 minute ago, Casualcas said:

So all this noise about polls, and seasons , VR is all old news and people are arguing to the wind now?

I don't know what you mean.

I was just saying it's smart of MS/Asobo to be proactive and not simply reactive.  

 

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1 minute ago, Casualcas said:

So all this noise about polls, and seasons , VR is all old news and people are arguing to the wind now?

Probably could have avoided 31 pages of forums posts if they'd have said

"so we will try our darnedest to make it happen. Whether or not we're going to pull it off for launch, we don't .. we can't commit to that at this point in time, but we have the desire"

in the press Q&A, rather than in an audio interview.

4 minutes ago, irrics said:

I don't know what you mean.

I was just saying it's smart of MS/Asobo to be proactive and not simply reactive.  

 

I know. I was agreeing with you, and the rest is at the "others" I have on ignore. Haha

6 minutes ago, nickhod said:

Probably could have avoided 31 pages of forums posts if they'd have said

"so we will try our darnedest to make it happen. Whether or not we're going to pull it off for launch, we don't .. we can't commit to that at this point in time, but we have the desire"

in the press Q&A, rather than in an audio interview.

Saw it, and glad you did that little transcript.  Thanks!

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6 minutes ago, nickhod said:

in the press Q&A, rather than in an audio interview.

To be fair, that interview took place nearly a week after the big event. They had time to assimilate the feedback received at the event, as well as comments made here and elsewhere, so I'm not a bit surprised at the fresher viewpoint.

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3 minutes ago, n4gix said:

To be fair, that interview took place nearly a week after the big event. They had time to assimilate the feedback received at the event, as well as comments made here and elsewhere, so I'm not a bit surprised at the fresher viewpoint.

That's interesting. I didn't realise the timeline. I thought it was something recorded at the event.

So there you go everyone. These 32 pages of utter nonsense maybe were worth it 😀

Well done Nick, you did create quite a monster with this thread.

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Anyway...back onto the topic of VR and simulators. 

  • A real airplane has a field of view of about 180 degrees from left window to right window. It also has control surfaces and instruments for aviating, navigating, and communicating.
  • A home build simulator can easily replicate all of these conditions...and many have done so EXACTLY. 

So if you already have a 180 degree FOV, and have a physical cockpit with all control surfaces, and instruments, then you stand nothing to gain from using VR...in fact you would be losing realism. This goes the same for racing car simulators. If you have a playseat with wheel, pedals, and shifter as well as a 180 degree FOV, you too would be gaining nothing from VR.

NOW...VR changes things significantly in RPG games. I was just playing elder scrolls V - Skyrim...obviously the future is VR as it blows non-vr games out of the water...same for games like boxing...and COD etc. many games out there are obviously better in VR. Truly exciting times for gamers!

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3 hours ago, nickhod said:

That's interesting. I didn't realise the timeline. I thought it was something recorded at the event.

So there you go everyone. These 32 pages of utter nonsense maybe were worth it 😀

The Microsoft preview event was held on Sept. 18th and the interview was posted on the Avsim front page on Oct. 1. 
 

Nevertheless, hopefully the VR clamor here brought some attention our way.

 


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