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1 hour ago, paulpenney said:

I plugged it into the arduino IDE and the AVRISP spit out some information on the chip, but I couldn’t write to to it. Probably a matter of having the right board setup

OK, thanks, sure hope the firmware can be conveniently updated and Honeycomb is willing to do so.

And nice job with the Arduino mod & video.

Al

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Honeycomb yoke dead zones on Youtube: 

 

I have noticed that the dead zone and P3D is much more noticeable when compared to XP11. Using the FJS 727, a small movement of the Yoke to the left and right shows a movement in the sim, Where as in P3D using the NGXu, I really need to move about 10 or 20° before I can see some movement in the sim. 

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2 hours ago, GCBraun said:

I have noticed that the dead zone and P3D is much more noticeable when compared to XP11. Using the FJS 727, a small movement of the Yoke to the left and right shows a movement in the sim, Where as in P3D using the NGXu, I really need to move about 10 or 20° before I can see some movement in the sim. 

When you say "movement" above, do you mean movement of the VC yoke itself, or movement (turning) of the aircraft in response to the yoke?

Thx,

Al

2 hours ago, GCBraun said:

I have noticed that the dead zone and P3D is much more noticeable when compared to XP11. Using the FJS 727, a small movement of the Yoke to the left and right shows a movement in the sim, Where as in P3D using the NGXu, I really need to move about 10 or 20° before I can see some movement in the sim. 

I wonder if this just reflects P3D's exponential scaling of the yoke input. X-Plane doesn't do this by default, so you get a closer to linear response (which you can tweak in all sorts of ways). But the basic dead zones are just as clear in X-Plane when you look at the calibration screen or monitor the flight controls datarefs (Data Output / Item 8).

P.S.  If you are using FSUIPC you should also check you have the 'delta' value set to 128 or less, otherwise you are losing precision in the yoke data stream.

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1 hour ago, ark said:

When you say "movement" above, do you mean movement of the VC yoke itself, or movement (turning) of the aircraft in response to the yoke?

Thx,

Al

VC yoke movement. 

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1 hour ago, MarkDH said:

I wonder if this just reflects P3D's exponential scaling of the yoke input. X-Plane doesn't do this by default, so you get a closer to linear response (which you can tweak in all sorts of ways). But the basic dead zones are just as clear in X-Plane when you look at the calibration screen or monitor the flight controls datarefs (Data Output / Item 8).

P.S.  If you are using FSUIPC you should also check you have the 'delta' value set to 128 or less, otherwise you are losing precision in the yoke data stream.

Thank you for these clarifications. I’ll definitely check it in Fsuipc. 

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I haven’t been super affected by the deadzones. They are certainly there when I tested it out, but in my day to day flying it hasn’t been a big deal. Going from the 45 degrees of the saitek to the 90 degrees took some getting used to so it might have “masked” its effect on me personally.

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On 11/16/2019 at 1:48 PM, DaveCT2003 said:

The firmware is already on my list to speak with Honeycomb about next week.

Dave,

Any feedback on this?

Thx,

Al

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On 11/22/2019 at 6:53 AM, ark said:

Dave,

Any feedback on this?

Thx,

Al

Hope Dave hasn't forgotten about us lol. Been refreshing this page everyday for an update 😞

Waiting for a feedback, too.

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On 12/4/2019 at 7:41 AM, SoTotallyToby said:

Hope Dave hasn't forgotten about us lol. Been refreshing this page everyday for an update 😞


Guys, you may have missed my post but I asked everyone to move over to the Honeycomb Support site.  I've just not been around much due to some important family (medical) matters with close family members and between that and my work for Aerosoft I'm going all out.

 

 

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53 minutes ago, DaveCT2003 said:


Guys, you may have missed my post but I asked everyone to move over to the Honeycomb Support site.  I've just not been around much due to some important family (medical) matters with close family members and between that and my work for Aerosoft I'm going all out.

 

 

First of all, hope your family all the best Dave. Did you specifically get a response from Honeycomb regarding the firmware? Not sure If I'm missing it but I can't find anything relating to it on the Honeycomb Support forums unless you were generally suggesting we post there about it. 

Thanks!

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