While I obviously appreciate whenever developers offer sales and discounts, I honestly think a whole bunch of simmers are getting spoiled by it or at least get too used to it. It's laudable when you offer a discount for owners of a previous version of your simulation, but just because it's the same thing which is simulated (737NG in this case) it doesn't mean it's greed when you choose not to offer discounts. Even if some parts of the NGX have been reused (can anyone even actually confirm this or is it just everyone's feeling?), which by the way makes perfect sense from a development resources point of view, at the end of the day it's still a whole new product for the vast part, taking up just as much effort as any other plane, so I find a full price completely acceptable.

Edited November 11, 20196 yr by threegreen

On 11/9/2019 at 9:54 PM, Perry333 said:

does anyone know if fs2crew works with it , thanks

No, i have tested it...

18 minutes ago, mikeymike said:

Come to terms with it ,It’s business!

its like buying a piece of furniture  Say for $100 and then a few years later giving the same product a  face lift and selling it for the same price or if not more.

Exactly. And the best is: you can use your old furniture as long as you wish, you don't have to buy a new one 🙂

BTW: NGXu only a "facelift"? Maybe you should take at least a small glance at the release notes. Its so far from a facelift as an 2008 car is from its current edition.

@PATCO LCH, the British Government reduced corporation tax a few years ago and receipts increased. Higher prices don’t necessarily increase profits. The key is to find the lowest price that will attract the highest number of customers.

Edited November 11, 20196 yr by Ray Proudfoot

8 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@PATCO LCH, the British Government reduced corporation tax a few years ago and receipts increased. Higher prices don’t necessarily increase profits. The key is to find the lowest price that will attract the highest number of customers.

It's rather the highest price that will attract the highest number. The lowest would be zero....

4 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@PATCO LCH, the British Government reduced corporation tax a few years ago and receipts increased. Higher prices don’t necessarily increase profits. The key is to find the lowest price that will attract the highest number of customers.

The key is to find the price that will bring the maximum amount of profit.
 

Change "packs of raspberries" to units of 737NGXu.

30 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

It's rather the highest price that will attract the highest number. The lowest would be zero....

You don’t understand economics. Are you really saying the higher price the more people will buy it? I don’t think so. And giving it away for nothing would bankrupt the company.

29 minutes ago, F737NG said:

The key is to find the price that will bring the maximum amount of profit.
 

Change "packs of raspberries" to units of 737NGXu.

Good analogy. 70 appears to be the sweet spot. Over 90 and you don’t attract enough customers to make a profit.

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@PATCO LCH, the British Government reduced corporation tax a few years ago and receipts increased. Higher prices don’t necessarily increase profits. The key is to find the lowest price that will attract the highest number of customers.

I don't argue that prices are not directly correlated to profit. Only that your sentence was badly phrased!

7 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

What disappoints me is they never offer an upgrade price for existing customers and never seem to have a sale. Loyalty doesn't seem to count.

 

That's pretty much the nail on the head right there, for me.

Customer loyalty doesn't seem to make a difference. 

That alone has kept me from upgrading the 737 the past few times (I can't believe I'm talking about multiple upgrades for the same add-on.....), and I can't be the only one.

16 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

I don't argue that prices are not directly correlated to profit. Only that your sentence was badly phrased!

I disagree. I found yours baffling but let's not continue this. I've made my point.

Here's my take on loyalty. PMDG offers a product at their price. Their loyalty to me is a first rate product, well tested, with no bugs and if there are any they are quickly addressed. Good and consistent on going support. Delivery of the product promptly upon payment. PMDG excels on these points.

My loyalty consist of paying their price if I decide it's worth it to me. That's where the relationship begins and ends. Other then that I owe them nothing and they owe me nothing else. Like Don Corleone says: (Nothing personal, just business). 

My take on discounts. I like to get them but as threegreen stated I think consumers start expecting and  they kind of mess with the economics of a business. This is when a producer knows his market  won't buy for full price so they inflate the price so they can reduce it to a marketable level to sell. My goodness what you go through to buy a car or home. The hours of dickering back and forth then leaving without the product because no one pays the sticker price. Discounts are expected. I wish in cars anyway it was law  to price the product and  let that be the price. I bet a new car would be a lot cheaper if dealers had to price them to sell up front and seller and customer wouldn't have to squeeze each other out like oranges trying to tighten the screws on one another. 

PMDG did have a sale not long ago and all I saw in that is how much more I had to pay for those products then some one buying them at the sale price. So I could lament that PMDG was disloyal to me, a long time customer for giving others a lower price then what I paid.  Almost an insult:( This is the quadrium of discounts.   

I'm 100% with patco on this one. There is a misguided feeling of entitlement displayed by some. The pricing policy is the companies prerogative and surely they don't need the wise men of the avsim forum to teach them economy 101.

If one doesn't find the price to be fair, its also ones prerogative to not pay for it. As simple as that.

For the record - I don't feel the upgrade is worth 100 USD and won't be buying it but I also feel it's ludicrous to turn it into a whole lot of drama.

Interesting discussion and a lot of points to think about. But back to the topic: I bought the PMDG 737 NGX in June 2016 for $89, I am very satisfied with it. Was completely worth the money.

Now that I know the old machine well I can buy the new 737 NGXu for $99 and the question is, is it worth the money or shall I keep flying the old NGX and wait for what really happens on the market when the MSFS comes out.

Am i so impressed like i was 3 and a half years ago? Sets the NGXu new standards?

1 minute ago, Raller said:

Interesting discussion and a lot of points to think about. But back to the topic: I bought the PMDG 737 NGX in June 2016 for $89, I am very satisfied with it. Was completely worth the money.

Now that I know the old machine well I can buy the new 737 NGXu for $99 and the question is, is it worth the money or shall I keep flying the old NGX and wait for what really happens on the market when the MSFS comes out.

Am i so impressed like i was 3 and a half years ago? Sets the NGXu new standards?

That's a question only you can answer. For me personally it is well worth it.