November 10, 20196 yr As many of you know, it's against the law to use insider knowledge to buy or sell stock. For example, a bank president who secretly discovered that his bank was about to fail could not legally sell his shares of company stock just before the price collapsed and the outside public was stuck with the losses. Generally speaking, non-public information cannot be used to buy or sell stock, regardless of whether the non-public information is positive or negative, because this insider knowledge is seen as unfair to the outside investor. Now, this brings me to the issue of us elite, sophisticated, and extraordinarily brilliant and good-looking recipients of the Microsoft Flight Sim Insider Updates. After all, it is indeed called the INSIDER UPDATES. Suppose a person believes, as I do, that the information contained in these Insider updates forecasts a very bright future for Microsoft? And suppose that I use this Insider knowledge to buy stock in Microsoft before the outside public becomes fully aware of the stunning, revolutionary nature of this forthcoming flight simulator? If I now buy Microsoft stock on the basis of these Insider Updates, am I guilty of "Insider Trading"? I'm making this post in a funny way, since I don't have money to invest in Microsoft or any other stock. But the issue is something to think about. 🙂 Edited November 10, 20196 yr by David Mills Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
November 10, 20196 yr Even if you knew exactly how much MS was gonna make on this, I doubt it would make any difference in stock speculation. Edited November 10, 20196 yr by carbonbasedlifeform Spelling
November 10, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, David Mills said: If I now buy Microsoft stock on the basis of these Insider Updates, am I guilty of "Insider Trading"?🙂 🤣 As important as we like to consider the flight simulator arena, I don't think that even a hugely successful launch and massive unit sales of MSFS is going to make much of a impact on a company with a market value of $1.11 trillion. It will barely create a ripple on the chart. No. You're OK. None of us are going to be the recipients of a dawn raid by [select your country of residence here] law enforcement by virtue of being in the "insider program" news updates and possibly even buying a few shares in Microsoft before the release of MSFS. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
November 10, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, carbonbasedlifeform said: Even if you knew exactly how much MS was gonna make on this, I doubt it would make any difference in stock speculation. True. FS2020 will account for a very small part of their business given they have a gross income of over $80 billion. Even if the game sim were a monster that could sell as much as the most popular triple A title such as RDR it would likely only boost earnings by less than 1% and for a limited period while if it flopped it would hardly make a ripple. Then again with massive corporations a lot of value is in brand recognition so any successful product reflects well across the board and will likely increase profits elsewhere, Anyone got a few million I can borrow?
November 11, 20196 yr Real investors may see it as a risk it`s limited niche product unlike games like COD Raymond Fry.
November 11, 20196 yr Real investors might glance at the XBox division - if that. More likely they'd look at Microsoft's consumer products in general, while thinking about competitors and the company's prospects as a whole. No way are they going to pay attention to an individual title. They might do that if they were looking at a game company like Take-Two Interactive. But Microsoft? Not a chance. Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
November 11, 20196 yr Microsoft are one of the richest companies on the planet...ever!, because they OWN YOU! and me and everyone else who uses the internet...so, sure, buy now while you can. Regards Russ Russell Shaw
November 11, 20196 yr Remember, MSFS is only 1 of hundreds of games to be released for the new Xbox as well. The Xbox games have over 60 million users, MSFS, being a niche product, will not cause a blip amongst the more popular games. Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
November 11, 20196 yr 17 hours ago, David Mills said: Now, this brings me to the issue of us elite, sophisticated, and extraordinarily brilliant and good-looking recipients of the Microsoft Flight Sim Insider Updates. After all, it is indeed called the INSIDER UPDATES. Suppose a person believes, as I do, that the information contained in these Insider updates forecasts a very bright future for Microsoft? And suppose that I use this Insider knowledge to buy stock in Microsoft before the outside public becomes fully aware of the stunning, revolutionary nature of this forthcoming flight simulator? If I now buy Microsoft stock on the basis of these Insider Updates, am I guilty of "Insider Trading"? Although labelled as 'Insider Updates' it is still in the public domain as anyone can sign up to it. It's not price sensitive information. People could therefore take a reasonable punt on it. Edited November 11, 20196 yr by ErichB
November 11, 20196 yr And Microsoft's big 'thing' is how Azure is being used professionally, not as an entertainment tool. So, nope, a single PC & Xbox simulator/game will not affect Microsoft's share value at all. Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
November 11, 20196 yr I still don't get the whole "Insider Program", although there must be a reason because that's something you see a lot with Microsoft games or software. Former MSFS Alpha Tester, current member of the MSFS Stream Team.
November 11, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, simtom said: I still don't get the whole "Insider Program", although there must be a reason because that's something you see a lot with Microsoft games or software. It's really just a marketing ploy to get people to sign up so they feel they're getting something that others are not.. It also gives them an indication of interest levels and potential uptake..
November 11, 20196 yr Just now, ErichB said: It's really just a marketing ploy to get people to sign up so they feel they're getting something that others are not.. It also gives them an indication of interest levels and potential uptake.. Yeah, that's what I thought as well. Perfect solution for marketing analysis! Former MSFS Alpha Tester, current member of the MSFS Stream Team.
November 11, 20196 yr Basically, it's a bit of hype to make people feel important, & to get people become alpha/beta testers, almost as an ego trip. Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
November 11, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, Wobbie said: Basically, it's a bit of hype to make people feel important, & to get people become alpha/beta testers, almost as an ego trip. Yeah, just waiting for the first plonker to take a selfie in front of the insider page and post it on Instagram. Cuz that's what people do these days innit.
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