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Minimum download speed with faster aircraft

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A question to the developers...

I've seen it mentioned somewhere here that the user will need a minimum download speed of 25Mbps to ensure the sim runs smoothly. What I would like to know is whether that is dependent on the IAS of the aircraft. All we have seen so far are single prop aircraft flying around 150kts or thereabouts at relatively low altitudes.

Would someone flying an aircraft at 250kts below 10,000ft require a faster download speed? Logically it would seem so. And if that's the case what would it be?

To push things to extremes if I'm flying Concorde over unpopulated land at Mach 2 covering 20nm a minute 50,000ft up what would the requirements be then?

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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interessting question, i think at this speed you won't see anything on the ground anyway.

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@Nedo68, clearly not buildings but the distance to the horizon at Concorde's maximum flight level of 600 is 300 statute miles or 260nm. Considerably further than sub-sonic aircraft.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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The recommended download speed for maximum graphics was 10 to 25mb depending on the complexity of the area.

There will be up to 40 (Or was it 20?) Different levels of detail.  FS will seamlessly adjust the level of detail depending on your connection speed and current fps to give smooth consistent flying.

You may also download any areas you want in full detail (if you got the hard drive space).   So if your commonly doing vfr flights around your home town, then download that area.

 

So answer your question, if your flying along super fast and the connection is struggling your level of detail will be dropped

As far as I remember, Jörg Neumann said in the recent interview that you'd need a download speed between 15 and 25 MB/s to have the earth covered in HD. He didn't mention anything though of the speed of your aircraft.

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15 minutes ago, bernd1151 said:

As far as I remember, Jörg Neumann said in the recent interview that you'd need a download speed between 15 and 25 MB/s to have the earth covered in HD. He didn't mention anything though of the speed of your aircraft.

Exactly. And surely the aircraft speed will have a serious impact on how much download demand there is. I know I'm talking extremes here but Concorde pushes the limits like no other aircraft.

I should say that most of her supersonic flights were over water so that should not be an issue. I'm talking about unusual routes such as New York to Vancouver in 1999 when it was allowed to go supersonic over northern Canada. Should a Concorde be available in MFS that is one route that I would like to fly.

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20 minutes ago, Theboot100 said:

So answer your question, if your flying along super fast and the connection is struggling your level of detail will be dropped

My speed is consistently 50Mbps+ so speaking personally I should be okay. But others may not be so lucky. Some type of chart with detail versus speed would be useful ... eventually of course.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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I predict pre-caching will be necessary to get best results with aircrafts like the Concorde or the SR71. I'm afraid we'll only know when Mach 2 aircrafts will actually be available though.

"Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".

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23 minutes ago, Murmur said:

I predict pre-caching will be necessary to get best results with aircrafts like the Concorde or the SR71. I'm afraid we'll only know when Mach 2 aircrafts will actually be available though.

If that is necessary then the product could be considered not fit for purpose. It should be able to handle all aspects of flight, not just some.

Anyway, perhaps Microsoft will read this and put some info out.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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1 minute ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

If that is necessary then the product could be considered not fit for purpose. It should be able to handle all aspects of flight, not just some.

Infact it would be able to handle it, but using pre-cached mode or a very fast connection speed. I was curious about this issue too, but so far nobody asked Asobo devs about this.

"Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".

I don't really see it being an issue. You wouldn't really notice the same detail travelling at high speeds. The sim could skip a lot of the smaller buildings and vegetation because they wouldn't really catch the eye. Of course if you internet is faster than the recommended, there is no stopping it from going all out.

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That's why I would be interested to see a jet flight at 5,000ft at 250-300kias over scenery no popping and blur.

I should be good for speed not long ago updated my internet with the ISP virgin.

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Remember you can always pre-download/pre-cache, and specifically for a flight plan beforehand, which I imagine most tubers will use. As a practical matter, it shouldn't be an issue if you plan ahead.

Another point is that although Concorde is rather fast, it's only fast at very high altitude where the LOD is a lot lower. M0.2 at 5000ft is most likely more demanding than M2.0 at FL500. 

M0.9 between 50 and 1500ft will be the real challenge.

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17 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

My speed is consistently 50Mbps+ so speaking personally I should be okay. But others may not be so lucky. Some type of chart with detail versus speed would be useful ... eventually of course.

What about server lag especially during busy times and days of the week?  What about server maintenance and server downtime?  Will we not be able to play while servers are down?

 

How many devices do you have connected to your internet/router at one time?  I suspect my speed will be slower with two computers, 3 iPads, a PS4, Netflix streaming tv service and 3 cell phones all connected at once...

 

I’ve been saying since the announcement that your internet speed and bandwidth will make all the difference in quality visuals over your CPU and GPU!

 

 

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