December 19, 20196 yr Commercial Member This is from our lead tester who is, in real life, a KA 350i instructor: Installation – Overall both products install easily. “the other guys bird” has an issue with overwriting True Type Fonts that requires you to press the ignore button a few times during install. ExteriorBoth products are nearly equal reference exterior views. If I had to pick, I would state that “the other guys bird” has a slight edge due to lighting. (Darn ONE that's not as good)Interior Cabin MV KA 350 does not focus on the cabin at all. “the other guys bird” displays animated cockpit doors, toilet doors, executive desks, and dimmable cabin windows. Fasten seat belt and no smoking signs illuminate properly. (this works now mostly for MV ka.Preflight Cockpit / Before Engine Start“the other guys bird” does not provide any external power feature and battery will discharge quickly if preflight actions are delayed. MV has proper GPU and external power system. Battery Bus – Does not work INOP in “the other guys bird” Works in MVESIS Test - AUX Battery – INOP in “the other guys bird” Works in MVPower Quadrant – Propellers levers incorrectly modeled when in feather position. Should be beyond detent in red and white hashed area. Works properly in MVElectric Trim – “the other guys bird” incorrectly works with the Battery Off and with the Battery On no source of 28VDC or Gen ties closed. MV B350i properly simulates B350 electrical system.Voltmeter – “the other guys bird” voltmeter will not show battery voltage with battery switch off. MV B350i properly simulates B350 electrical system.Voltmeter – “the other guys bird” Battery voltage is low (18 VDC) incorrect voltage during multiple electrical checks. MV B350i properly simulates B350 electrical system.Annunciator Lights – “the other guys bird” nose, Left, and Right main gear down indicators not visible, TAWS+ button not illuminated, and reversionary panel lighting not illuminated. MV B350i properly illuminated buttons.Interior lighting – “the other guys bird” is very simplistic with rocker switches connected, multiple rheostats operate simultaneously, rheostats operate on – off, and incorrect lighting such as glareshield lighting also including flood lights. MV 350i Reallight system provides accurate illumination of cockpit. Lights are also properly connected to electrical system.Fuel System – “the other guys bird” fuel system is simplistic. Firewall shutoff valves and standby pumps do not test properly, fuel quantity test is incorrect (inop), and crossfeed test is incorrect. Standby pumps have three positions and ‘automatic’ center position. MV B350i includes correct fuel system with electrical components correctly attached to proper busses.Gen and Bat ties (HED) – “the other guys bird” not modeled. MV B350i correctly modeled providing both protection and load shedding of the electrical system. Alternate Static Source – “the other guys bird” inop. MV B350i modeled.ESIS Test – “the other guys bird” there is no AUX Battery, test does not work. MV B350i worksGround Com – “the other guys bird” INOP, MV B350i correctly modeled and attached to electrical systemFMS – RTU – “the other guys bird” very rare non-standard setup with dual FMS and RTU. Most aircraft are single FMS and RTU or Dual FMS. MV B350i much more likely to see out of the factory optioned airplane.Master Caution / Warning – “the other guys bird” incorrect reset, sticky reset (remains reset despite battery on/off) unable to test. MV B350i Correct Warning/Caution/Advisory system. Environmental – “the other guys bird” AC N1 Low with ECS in OFF. MV B350i complete and correct ECS.Landing Gear Handle Light Test – “the other guys bird” INOP. MV B350i correct.Hydraulic Sensor Test – “the other guys bird” INOP, MV B350i correct.Cabin Alt Warning Test – “the other guys bird” incorrect indications. MV B350i correct.Cabin Dif High Test – “the other guys bird” incorrect indication. MV B350i correct.Fire Detection and Extinguishing systems Test – “the other guys bird” incorrect indications. MV B350i correct.Engine Start Battery StartEngine Start – “the other guys bird” incorrectly ties autoignition with starter switches. Propeller remains static during most of engine start. N1, Torque and propeller surges during start. Fuel flow before condition levers are fully moved to low idle. MV B350i Correct PT6A-60 start procedure.Electrical test after start – “the other guys bird” incorrect load after start, right generator will not operate, bus ties incorrect, voltmeter incorrect voltage. MV B350i correct electrical indication after engine start.N1 Low idle – “the other guys bird” low idle (detent) position is incorrect high N1 67%. MV B350i correct 62 to 64% N1Ice Vanes – “the other guys bird” too much engine reduction due to ice vane deployment. MV B350i correct.Voltmeter – “the other guys bird” will not stay in battery, reselects to Triple fed. MV B350i correct voltmeter knob operation.Generator switches – “the other guys bird” no reset position. MV B350i correct three position momentary reset operation. Propeller Synchrophaser – “the other guys bird” Button does not illuminate does not match propeller. MV B350i correct prop sync.Emergency Frequency – “the other guys bird” button does not illuminate, changes frequency to 121.50, pressing button second time does not restore previous frequency. MV B350i works correctlyESIS – “the other guys bird” incorrect ESIS. MV B350i correct ESIS.RTU – “the other guys bird” simplistic, incorrect operation, no detail pages. MV B350i correct operation and pages.EGPWS and/or TAWS+ - “the other guys bird” INOP. MV B350i works correctlyTCAS – “the other guys bird” incorrect depiction (Garmin style) unable to test. MV B350i worksFMS – “the other guys bird” simplistic FMS. Dual FMS are linked (two FMS, but are actually single FMS.) Many pages are incorrect or functions do not operate properly. Flight Plan modifications will cause flight plan to disappear. (Barely an FMS at all.) MV B350i works at 95%Engine State GPU Start “the other guys bird” is unable to perform GPU start! MV works correctlyHot Start “the other guys bird” does not seem to have any engine modeling that includes hot start. MV has it correct. So.. as you can see... we're pretty sure we're on the right track... Please contact oisin at milviz dot com for forum registration information. Please provide proof of purchase if you want support. Also, include the username you wish to have.
December 19, 20196 yr 29 minutes ago, DJJose said: Waiting for @RyanBatcund to chime in before I get too excited before it's released. I'm here hah! | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
December 19, 20196 yr Commercial Member Oh Rob... that's too funny. Sheesh. I would like to think that I learned my lesson on doing pre-releases of any kind. We're compiling the RC and will advise. I want to test it for at least one 24 hour period so... if we're good, it's tmrw. Not today. Sorry all. Please contact oisin at milviz dot com for forum registration information. Please provide proof of purchase if you want support. Also, include the username you wish to have.
December 19, 20196 yr Lol - who is the other guy reference - is it the X-plane AirFoils 350? I am excited for Milviz on this (even though I am kinda upset why is it in the root sim install....not outside lol - I whack my sim way too much outside is imp but I fell in love P-38 so yah) How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
December 19, 20196 yr Commercial Member 5 minutes ago, Skywolf said: Lol - who is the other guy reference - is it the X-plane AirFoils 350? I am excited for Milviz on this (even though I am kinda upset why is it in the root sim install....not outside lol - I whack my sim way too much outside is imp but I fell in love P-38 so yah) He is called "other guy" for a reason ya know. Best option is to try the different KAs out there and see which are the differences mentioned. Jonathan "FRAG" Bleeker Formerly known here as "Narutokun" If I speak for my company without permission the boss will nail me down. So unless otherwise specified...Im just a regular simmer who expresses his personal opinion
December 19, 20196 yr Commercial Member There's only ONE other KA350i out there... right? The XP 350 is just that. (no little i). Please contact oisin at milviz dot com for forum registration information. Please provide proof of purchase if you want support. Also, include the username you wish to have.
December 19, 20196 yr 17 minutes ago, JB3DG said: He is called "other guy" for a reason ya know. Best option is to try the different KAs out there and see which are the differences mentioned. Not wasting money everywhere - I only need 1 - the best one need to be the option How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
December 19, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Milviz said: Oh Rob... that's too funny. Sheesh. I would like to think that I learned my lesson on doing pre-releases of any kind. We're compiling the RC and will advise. I want to test it for at least one 24 hour period so... if we're good, it's tmrw. Not today. Sorry all. Please sell it to me now. I promise i wont complain about anything. Juan Ramos
December 19, 20196 yr 16 hours ago, Milviz said: No on the install. It's old school like all of our products. Pardon my ignorance, but is installing the product outside of the main sim's folder structure as LM suggests difficult to implement? It's not a show stopper, and I will likely purchase this plane. As all of my other add-ons are now installed outside of the main sim's folders, I will say P3D hot-fixes, minor releases, and reinstalls have been so much less cumbersome. Just curious. Chris
December 19, 20196 yr Commercial Member We do it this way because a good 80% of our code is external and the easiest way to deal with that is to put it where it's supposed to go (old school). F Please contact oisin at milviz dot com for forum registration information. Please provide proof of purchase if you want support. Also, include the username you wish to have.
December 19, 20196 yr 11 minutes ago, Milviz said: We do it this way because a good 80% of our code is external and the easiest way to deal with that is to put it where it's supposed to go (old school). F Do you have an eta for tomorrow? any chance for today? Juan Ramos
December 19, 20196 yr Commercial Member no eta. running tests now. Some bugs got through so we're working on killing them Please contact oisin at milviz dot com for forum registration information. Please provide proof of purchase if you want support. Also, include the username you wish to have.
December 19, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Skywolf said: Lol - who is the other guy reference - is it the X-plane AirFoils 350? Must be Carenado, I recognize some of the "features". I bought it a few years ago when it became clear that the Milviz would take a while, but I am really keen on trying the new one soon 🙂 Peter
December 19, 20196 yr 52 minutes ago, Milviz said: We do it this way because a good 80% of our code is external and the easiest way to deal with that is to put it where it's supposed to go (old school). F No offense guys, it is fine you guys are going this way but when LM updates comes - sometimes sim does break. Besides LM updates, it is the other addons which at times wreck havoc in the files. You know the root sim is a total mess from legacy fsx days. It will be great if you could look to do full external install in the future. I know PMDG will not listen and follow the new ways of doing it but Leonardo and A2A can do it (even Orbx can do it partially) besides it is super easy to fix bugs and reduces your support headaches; then I am sure you guys could pull it off also. But this is just a suggestion. Like everyone on here, we are excited about this release. Get those last minute bugs squashed. When are the videos gonna be out or livestream? I have waited for this release for a long time. How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
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