15 hours ago, micstatic said:

that's my beef with this airplane.  I can get a smooth 30 with any other plane in my hangar.  Fire on the battery with this plane and it has stutters.  Panning around the VC is not smooth either.  

Well I finally spent the money on the upgrade despite my hesitation to do so.  I truly want a “complete” CRJ, I would love to fly it in the sim.

 

Unfortunately, I immediately regret my purchase.
 

I thought some of the LNAV and FMS issues would be fixed.  I was wrong and I’m still running into the some of the same LNAV unpredictability.  This seems compounded especially when you try changing routing in flight and very sharp turns.  *Seems* slightly better than before, but I think still needs work.

I also assumed the stuttering would have been fixed...it was easily apparent in the first iteration.  Seems from videos, others as well experiencing it.  And, wow, I was wrong there, it’s just as apparent now than ever before.  Purely subjective, but I’m convinced it has something to do with the coding of the displays (Screens, HUD, FMS) than the model itself.  This is the ONLY plane in my hangar to suffer from this with wildly fluctuating frames.  PMDG, Majestic, Maddog X, you name it.  None of this sort of behavior.

 

And whatever is going on with HDR, I am beyond frustrated with as well.  I’ve tried with default HDR and shaders, as other posts have suggested, but on the brightest days it’s like I’m wearing heavily-tinted sun glasses with a splash of gray coating.

 

I’ll hold my observations there for now but I’ve tried to complete about a half dozen flights so far and have just abandoned them out of frustration.  Sadly, this one seems like it’ll sit in my hangar for the foreseeable future.

 

 

14 minutes ago, CaptKornDog said:

Purely subjective, but I’m convinced it has something to do with the coding of the displays (Screens, HUD, FMS) than the model itself

That's what I've been thinking as well, since FPS go down after turning the battery on.  The HUD kills FPS, despite it being (seemingly) a relatively simple gauge...

33 minutes ago, flycln said:

Just read the thread on their forums. I’m just shaking my head here. 
 

A real life CRJ pilot gives valuable input and the dev complains about having his Sunday ruined but “fortunately” he can just lock the thread (as he put it).

It’s frankly amazing. Does Aerosoft not recognize that the guy is hurting their reputation in the community?

Fun, right? And I got some permanent warning points because apparently the thread title is offensive and I personally attacked the dev...

I also just read the thread myself and responses.  I wish constructive criticism would be more welcomed and valuable sources of information wouldn't be shut out.  It would benefit customers, developers, and the community as a whole.  And this isn't the only instance, there have been plenty of other examples out there.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Prpn said:

And I got some permanent warning points

Oh, welcome to the club there.  🙂

50 minutes ago, CaptKornDog said:

Well I finally spent the money on the upgrade despite my hesitation to do so.  I truly want a “complete” CRJ, I would love to fly it in the sim.

 

Unfortunately, I immediately regret my purchase.
 

I thought some of the LNAV and FMS issues would be fixed.  I was wrong and I’m still running into the some of the same LNAV unpredictability.  This seems compounded especially when you try changing routing in flight and very sharp turns.  *Seems* slightly better than before, but I think still needs work.

I also assumed the stuttering would have been fixed...it was easily apparent in the first iteration.  Seems from videos, others as well experiencing it.  And, wow, I was wrong there, it’s just as apparent now than ever before.  Purely subjective, but I’m convinced it has something to do with the coding of the displays (Screens, HUD, FMS) than the model itself.  This is the ONLY plane in my hangar to suffer from this with wildly fluctuating frames.  PMDG, Majestic, Maddog X, you name it.  None of this sort of behavior.

 

And whatever is going on with HDR, I am beyond frustrated with as well.  I’ve tried with default HDR and shaders, as other posts have suggested, but on the brightest days it’s like I’m wearing heavily-tinted sun glasses with a splash of gray coating.

 

I’ll hold my observations there for now but I’ve tried to complete about a half dozen flights so far and have just abandoned them out of frustration.  Sadly, this one seems like it’ll sit in my hangar for the foreseeable future.

 

 

Envtex  and the CRJ do not work together very well

4 minutes ago, cannow said:

Envtex  and the CRJ do not work together very well

In my case, I don't have Envtex installed but I've read the same.

1 hour ago, cannow said:

Envtex  and the CRJ do not work together very well

 

1 hour ago, CaptKornDog said:

In my case, I don't have Envtex installed but I've read the same.

Did you actually mean Envshade? It does present a very dark cockpit (in the NGXu as well)

Just now, Shomron said:

 

Did you actually mean Envshade? It does present a very dark cockpit (in the NGXu as well)

Yes I meant envshade should be updated now for PBR aircraft not working properly yet I think

Just completed a flight from Denver to Durango in the CRJ-550 Professional for P3D v5.  And yes, as reported many times, the CRJ started banking right between waypoints for absolutely no reason.  Fortunately ATC was off-line on VATSIM so I didn't get yelled at, and good thing I monitor my flight the whole time and don't go AFK or it would be flying in circles for a while. It is pretty ridiculous considering this has been brought to the attention of Aerosoft many, many times from what it sounds like.

On 7/10/2020 at 8:59 AM, SAX702 said:

You have to create one based on what's there.  For example, for the CRJ7, you can create an Aerosoft CRJ7 profile based on the simBrief CRJ7 profile.  It mainly involves specific weights and fuel capacity.  Please chime in if you need more help with this.  

I created a Simbrief profile for the Aerosoft CRJ, but Simbrief was still giving me way too much fuel and close to my MTOW on a short flight.  Therefore, I entered a fuel factor of M24 which I loosely determined based on my ending fuel while using the old CRJ Manager, which averaged 1,555 lbs over 25 flights.  This resulted in today's flight ending with 2,600 lbs. 

I'm not entirely sure how much fuel an actual airliner is supposed to end with, but getting closer, I guess.

Edited July 12, 20205 yr by NightOfDreams

Imagine being a new customer, spending €75 on this addon, and experiencing this... And then while browsing the Aerosoft support forum, finding out that it is a 3 year old problem that they just can't seem to get fixed.

Regarding fuel, in the real thing final reserve is about 800kg for the CRJ900 and 700kg for the CRJ700. Fuel burn for planning you can rule of thumb it as well, average on the CRJ900 is about 1600kg/h. The 700 a bit less, perhaps around 1400/1500kg. Add some extra for the initial climb, which will be up to about 25 minutes between 1800-3000kg/h.

Sorry, so you would normally like to end up with your final reserve of 800kg + fuel for alternate airport if needed.

Edited July 12, 20205 yr by Prpn

2 hours ago, Shomron said:

 

Did you actually mean Envshade? It does present a very dark cockpit (in the NGXu as well)

Yes, typo since I was reading the post above, sorry.

2 hours ago, NightOfDreams said:

Just completed a flight from Denver to Durango in the CRJ-550 Professional for P3D v5.

Could you share the FPLN (date and time), loads, exact livery, CRS Alt, etc.? I will fly the RTE

4 hours ago, Prpn said:

Fun, right? And I got some permanent warning points because apparently the thread title is offensive and I personally attacked the dev...

***Before reading this please understand that the written word is prone to interpretation so basicaly the worst way of communication (second best would be voice and best would be face to face)!***

I did read your post from AS Forum and I'm sorry to say but I did feel a bit harsh in tone starting with the title.

You must know that AS developes aircraft to fly standard OPS from A to B with no in deep simulation no'r failures etc. And since v4 and 64bits the entire line of Aircraft and specialy designed sceneries have the naming Pro in theyre title. Of course even with these type of system deepness (if it's even a word), the aircraft should not do the things it does (fly of course, etc, etc).

Your entire post was indeed exposing flaws in the product but your tone was IMHO agressive.

Hans did reply to all your reported bugs and yes...I think that in the end he kind of overreacted a bit.

Speaking about the price remember that starting with v4 development all prices went up. New materials, PBR, lights, rain effects, etc....all which leads to more work for the developers. With the CRJ Pro you actually get the CRJ500 /700 /900 and 1000 (which means 4 planes). The exterior and interior model design is IMHO beautiful. It got an amazing soundpack, it feels pretty well hand flying it (I'm not a pilot), it plays well with other services like GSX, etc.... but has some bugs that are indeed upsetting.

Regarding the BUGS, some of them seam to be bounded to the users PC (I can't tell why and which). Some of the NAV bugs can come from a bad AIRAC. I did experience oddities but none of them where showstoppers (e.g.: I never had the CRJ stray off CRS out of a sudden in the middle of a leg). That's why I keep asking peaople to share the FPLN and data.

This is page 7 of this thread and IIRC I already asked 3 times for users to share something so that somebody can try to reproduce / check it. Until this post, not a single person did it.....now either the guys want help and things to get fixed, or they want to blow out hot air.....

PS: In the BETA forum Hans already startet to fix some of the things you mentioned.....

Well, the tone is simply because you can't really fly this plane in normal ops with the flaws it has. All the things I mentioned are normal ops items except for the speed placard, which is just purely that I can't believe it has not been fixed in 3+ years since I reported it. It is also factual, and I don't really see any insults in there, except perhaps suggestion he needs some help. But if you have not been able to put together a working LNAV system in 3+ years, you do actually need help!

Also, the argument of more work so higher price is a false one in my opinion. Like with most other things, you should be paying for the quality of the work, not so much the quantity. Like, you can get a modded car that someone has put a lot of work into for a lot of money, but if it is not usable for driving, is it worth it?