July 17, 20205 yr There is no possible way that the DVDs are going to contain the complete simulation. They may contain the bulk of the non-streamed scenery and other graphics assets that would make up the bulk of the simulation size-wise, but there is no chance that the DVDs contain the executable files and DLLs that are the actual “brains” of the simulation. That part is still under active development and testing, (which will continue for the next 4 weeks), and the DVDs have already been burned and boxed according to Aerosoft. On release day, when the DVD version is run for the first time, it will connect online to Microsoft to register, and more importantly, download the rest of the required files. This again, is what Mathijs Kok said in his post discussing the DVD version. Most likely the updates that will make the sim fully functional will take much less time to download than streaming the entire installation, but it is still going to require some kind of internet connection to get the game “off the ground” (so to speak) on release day. Once that is done, it may be possible to run the game without an active internet connection, though without reasonably fast broadband, there will be no way to get the high resolution scenery that makes this sim uniquely different than anything which has come before. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
July 18, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, JRBarrett said: There is no possible way that the DVDs are going to contain the complete simulation. They may contain the bulk of the non-streamed scenery and other graphics assets that would make up the bulk of the simulation size-wise, but there is no chance that the DVDs contain the executable files and DLLs that are the actual “brains” of the simulation. That part is still under active development and testing, (which will continue for the next 4 weeks), and the DVDs have already been burned and boxed according to Aerosoft. I am not sure you got that right... What is on the DVD, according to Aerosoft, is the sim as it currently stands. Just like a Windows DVD... complete, but out of date. 🙂 Bert
July 18, 20205 yr 28 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said: I am not sure you got that right... What is on the DVD, according to Aerosoft, is the sim as it currently stands. Just like a Windows DVD... complete, but out of date. 🙂 https://www.xboxachievements.com/news/news-34054-Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-s-World-is-Two-Million-Gigabytes-in-Size.html No way DVD's will even come close to holding the data necessary around the entire world! This is why you will need to live stream or predownload everytime you select a new area to fly! Sorry to say internet is MANDATORY for this sim. Edited July 18, 20205 yr by Kilo60 Chris Camp
July 18, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, Kilo60 said: https://www.xboxachievements.com/news/news-34054-Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-s-World-is-Two-Million-Gigabytes-in-Size.html No way DVD's will even come close to holding the data necessary around the entire world! This is why you will need to live stream or predownload everytime you select a new area to fly! Sorry to say internet is MANDATORY for this sim. If you want the detailed scenery or sim updates, yes.. It may still work in offline mode, however.. Bert
July 18, 20205 yr 33 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said: I am not sure you got that right... What is on the DVD, according to Aerosoft, is the sim as it currently stands. Just like a Windows DVD... complete, but out of date. 🙂 Possibly, but if so it is going to be a very old version. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
July 18, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, Kilo60 said: https://www.xboxachievements.com/news/news-34054-Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-s-World-is-Two-Million-Gigabytes-in-Size.html No way DVD's will even come close to holding the data necessary around the entire world! This is why you will need to live stream or predownload everytime you select a new area to fly! Sorry to say internet is MANDATORY for this sim. Mandatory for the high-res graphics, but according to published info, the sim will have an “offline” mode that does not require internet. I assume that the scenery in that mode would look more like default FSX or P3D. Even for those who do have “always on” broadband internet, you wouldn’t want the sim to suddenly stop working mid-flight because your internet provider is having problems with their network. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
July 18, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, JRBarrett said: ...you wouldn’t want the sim to suddenly stop working mid-flight because your internet provider is having problems with their network. That is a very good point, Jim. Mark Robinson Part-time Ferroequinologist Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon) I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)
July 18, 20205 yr 15 hours ago, Kilo60 said: https://www.xboxachievements.com/news/news-34054-Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-s-World-is-Two-Million-Gigabytes-in-Size.html No way DVD's will even come close to holding the data necessary around the entire world! This is why you will need to live stream or predownload everytime you select a new area to fly! Sorry to say internet is MANDATORY for this sim. But I can download that two petabytes of data on my dial-up internet, right? Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
July 18, 20205 yr Using a USB stick should be easier than using 10 DVD's, less hassle & everyone has a USB port on their PC. Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
July 18, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Wobbie said: Using a USB stick should be easier than using 10 DVD's, less hassle & everyone has a USB port on their PC. The install media still doesn't help with activation of the product via the online servers though.
July 19, 20205 yr Straight from some of the Boxed Set the reviews: Quote Sadly, it doesn’t look as if the game is playable on DVD, which means modern gamers won’t get to enjoy the Full Floppy Experience, but swapping all those discs ought to get older stick jockeys feeling a bit nostalgic. Quote In any event, Aerosoft is building out this physical collection specifically for people who have slow internet connections or who simply want a physical copy of the game. The 10 DVDs include 90GB of Microsoft’s maps and other downloadable data, identical to what you’d download if you bought the game that way. Quote “I have not seen ANY area that looks better with 3rd party photoreal add-ons then default MFS with downloaded content,” they wrote. “And yes that means I get get a glass of wine while the sim buffers. But with any connection over 25 MB you hardly notice it.” Quote The boxed set will include 90 gigabytes of data, and will still require an update from Microsoft before the game will launch. Chris Camp
July 19, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Kilo60 said: Straight from some of the Boxed Set the reviews: It gets installed from the DVDs, saving the large download. Then both the DVD install & the downloaded install needs to be updated online, then, as it's then all digitally licensed online, no DVD is needed to plat the game. Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
July 19, 20205 yr I’d rather deal with an overnight download than have to install swapping 10 DVD’s! I’d just let it install while I slept. But to each there own I guess... Chris Camp
July 19, 20205 yr No, let me explain what the boxed version actually contains. Microsoft Flight SImulator (that's the name, not FS2020) contains four major parts (Note the sizes are estimates from what we know at this moment.) The simulator code itself (the 'sim') that is around pretty small in size at 900 MB, this is a mandatory part of the sim. The world and aircraft delivered by Microsoft, (that content depends on the version (the 'content') that is around 90 GB, this is a mandatory part of the sim. Optional online streamed content (this is an optional part of the sim) 3rd party files (clearly fully optional) Our DVD's contains 'all' of part 2, apart from the updates Microsoft and Asobo do between the moment the the DVD's are pressed and release. When you install, the sim will updates all files immediately form the servers and you will get the very latest code for the simulator itself and all content is updated. This is very much a simulator that depends on the cloud if you want to use it to its full potential. So the boxed version makes it possible for people on a slower internet connection to get the sim installed without downloading the 'content'. So the simulator is in every way, 100% the same. The above quote is from Mathijs Kok on the Aerosoft forum. Maybe this will make things clearer for some people in this thread. Give people power to really test their personality.
July 19, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Kilo60 said: I’d rather deal with an overnight download than have to install swapping 10 DVD’s! I’d just let it install while I slept. This all depends on your internet speed. Mine certainly won't download 90GB overnight. It would be more like 15 hours. Give people power to really test their personality.
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