News on the NGXu cargo and BBJ, 

Also you might be blown away with the other news but wrong forum 😛

https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/general-discussion-news-and-announcements/73673-30jul20-pending-updates-update-and-pmdg-737ng3-for-microsoft-flight-simulator-first-look

The cargo one is of interest to me.  Potentially anyway.  

MFS - Another six months on default planes😀

If there is one bit of gristle in our meal, it is this: The SDK/API that we need to bring our products into the sim is still a work in progress. It is growing rapidly with input from many developers and effort from Asobo, but at least for PMDG, our products won’t be ready when MSFS is ready. The PMDG 737NG3 will be our first release for MSFS, and we are not yet beginning to consider when it will release. It might be late 4Q20. It might be out as far as late 2Q21. It is very hard to tell at this juncture, but it will arrive

Edited July 30, 20205 yr by BMW969

But don’t worry: if you believe the forum hype, the default planes are going to be so much better than before. 
 

I am so looking forward to people’s reactions on release day. Showing features in videos doesn’t mean those features are actually working. 

5 minutes ago, flycln said:

But don’t worry: if you believe the forum hype, the default planes are going to be so much better than before. 
 

I am so looking forward to people’s reactions on release day. Showing features in videos doesn’t mean those features are actually working. 

Many have been flying them for 5 months already. If Cessna is enough for you, then everything is in order.

The reaction will be strong. Only not from the control of the plane, but from the outside world.  Even flying on a broomstick will be exciting.))

2 minutes ago, BMW969 said:

Many have been flying them for 5 months already. If Cessna is enough for you, then everything is in order.

The reaction will be strong. Only not from the control of the plane, but from the outside world.  Even flying on a broomstick will be exciting.))

I honestly don’t think I’ll use MSFS much until like summer 2021 when the first good addons are out. 

I just hope that TBM is good enough to tide me over. Love TBM's

Edited July 30, 20205 yr by DavidP

The scenery looks great, but I am more impressed with the "graphical" qualities of the default planes. They look amazing. From the way the material of the planes look: realistic. Rubber looks like rubber, metal looks like metal, leather looks like leather, the shine on the planes, the lighting.  

I don't know if the flight dynamics will be better, worse, or the same as the FSX default planes, but the "looks" have been increased. If FSX-SE came out years ago with this change in the default planes, it would have been all people talk about. I don't think it's to be expected that the default planes will measure up to a 3rd party who spends all their time on one "total" plane that might cost as much as the whole sim.

I'm not worried about the default planes being better then in FSX; they already are...look at the "skin" of the planes...amazing. Even if the FD are the same as FSX, the defaults are already "better" in my opinion.

 

Edited July 30, 20205 yr by SlowFlyer

4 hours ago, BMW969 said:

MFS - Another six months on default planes😀

If there is one bit of gristle in our meal, it is this: The SDK/API that we need to bring our products into the sim is still a work in progress. It is growing rapidly with input from many developers and effort from Asobo, but at least for PMDG, our products won’t be ready when MSFS is ready. The PMDG 737NG3 will be our first release for MSFS, and we are not yet beginning to consider when it will release. It might be late 4Q20. It might be out as far as late 2Q21. It is very hard to tell at this juncture, but it will arrive

OK, so - given this is PMDG - sounds like we'll be flying the NG3 some time in 2022 (?2023) then. 🙂

Also, people over on the MSFS forum are already getting defensive about the flight models of the default planes - "WHAT DO YOU EXPECT, THEY'RE DEFAULT!"

Well, I expect them to better than what I already have - for GA, that's A2A - this is not some weird "default versus default" competition, for established P3D simmers it's a question of whether MSFS does a better job overall in August 2020 compared to what P3D v5 and its currently available addons can bring to the table.

Whilst I am looking forward to MSFS for various reasons, I think a lot of people around here have been too quick to throw in the P3D towel in response to the hype around the new sim.

I'm pretty confident that I shall still be flying my PMDG planes in P3D v5.x a long time after August 18th. 

4 hours ago, flycln said:

But don’t worry: if you believe the forum hype, the default planes are going to be so much better than before. 

I am so looking forward to people’s reactions on release day. Showing features in videos doesn’t mean those features are actually working. 

The default planes are better than anything default from FSX/P3D/XP11... So yeah. I don't really get the need to be so negative, and expecting disappointment with glee as you seem to be indicating. The only thing I can think of is feeling left out or something. I can tell you one thing, you'll be missing out on a very enjoyable experience if you won't fly FS2020 for the first year. Not perfect by any means, but severely enjoyable and truly "next gen" in a lot of ways. Can't think of a reason why someone wouldn't want to support this new platform.

11 hours ago, Prpn said:

The default planes are better than anything default from FSX/P3D/XP11... So yeah. I don't really get the need to be so negative, and expecting disappointment with glee as you seem to be indicating. The only thing I can think of is feeling left out or something. I can tell you one thing, you'll be missing out on a very enjoyable experience if you won't fly FS2020 for the first year. Not perfect by any means, but severely enjoyable and truly "next gen" in a lot of ways. Can't think of a reason why someone wouldn't want to support this new platform.

If you believe they’re better than default planes in other sims, knock yourself out. We will all see in about two weeks. They do *look* nice.  
 

I totally agree that the sim is next gen in some ways and I didn’t say I won’t get it. 
I just don’t believe I’ll use it a whole lot for the first year. 
 

I’m also totally unconcerned regarding whether or not Microsoft needs my support in this.

14 minutes ago, flycln said:

If you believe they’re better than default planes in other sims, knock yourself out. We will all see in about two weeks. They do *look* nice.  
 

From what I've seen from default planes it shouldn't be hard to improve on them, obviously graphically they are much better. Anyone expecting them to be better than the best commercial offerings available in other sims though is (I suspect) either delusional or expressing a bogus argument. 

That said, I've never flown default aircraft - so the idea we are already getting information from PMDG is fantastic, and screenshots I have seen are great. Just hoping that we see other developers jumping in similarly!.

G

2 hours ago, Gazzareth said:

From what I've seen from default planes it shouldn't be hard to improve on them, obviously graphically they are much better. Anyone expecting them to be better than the best commercial offerings available in other sims though is (I suspect) either delusional or expressing a bogus argument. 

That said, I've never flown default aircraft - so the idea we are already getting information from PMDG is fantastic, and screenshots I have seen are great. Just hoping that we see other developers jumping in similarly!.

G

Yeah, not having interest in default airplanes is the reason I don’t see myself using the sim much until good addons are out in mid 2021. 
 

But some people insist that the default planes in MSFS are great because they’ve seen their systems supposedly work in videos. Which is hilarious. 

6 hours ago, flycln said:

If you believe they’re better than default planes in other sims, knock yourself out. We will all see in about two weeks. They do *look* nice.  

Not really a matter of believing, but knowing... after flying them for quite a bit. Anyway, to each their own. No video watching here.

Everything is very simple. Airplanes are designed for X box by default. Gamepad to help you. I hope this is a sensible explanation)

Nice? Indisputably. This is a new generation of visuals. But! To fly, like in P3D, with custom airports, airplanes, without stuttering in 4K, I look towards the 10-core processor 5000 MHz and 3080Ti

Get ready to part ways with the simulator. Everything is different there, everything is for gamers on TV. Everything for the mass user. For children and adults. Get on the broom and into the sky! I expect LM to bring us back weather, shaders and stability.