August 16, 20205 yr Just now, kingm56 said: If you need to rekindle your enthusiasm for MSFS, just pop in default P3D V5 and execute a few circuits...that should help you recoup your enthusiasm pretty quickly You're not a P3D v5 fan, are you? I'll be flying MSFS a bit later today. But I'm also still buying addons and building scenery for Prepar3d v5. Do you actually fly Prepar3d v5, or is this just something you read on the internet? Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
August 16, 20205 yr What is this glass half empty/ half full nonsense - personally, my glass is always full to the brim, indeed my cup runneth over. With no pesky 8 Hours bottle to throttle restriction in the sim. 🍻
August 16, 20205 yr No need to teach me to lower my expectations. I've been in the alpha for half a year and I know I'll enjoy it 🙂, despite a number of issues most of which will be solved over time. Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
August 16, 20205 yr 17 minutes ago, OzWhitey said: You're not a P3D v5 fan, are you? I'll be flying MSFS a bit later today. But I'm also still buying addons and building scenery for Prepar3d v5. Do you actually fly Prepar3d v5, or is this just something you read on the internet? I suggest you totally avoid MSFS, even screen shots and videos, if you have any intention of continuing to fly an older sim. Any older sim. No matter how many add-ons you've accumulated. I may do some flying in P3Dv4.5, if only to fly certain aircraft that won't exist in MSFS any time soon, if ever, but it's gonna be painful. Real painful. But at least I'll have the gorgeous Active Sky Cloud Art which should ameliorate the pain of giving up the gorgeous MSFS scenery. Enhanced Atmospherics? Still in beta. Two layers of clouds. No real integration with Active Sky so you can't be flying in clear skies and see a thunderstorm in the distance. The very real possibility of VRAM OOMs. I don't need that grief. At least you can turn it off. Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
August 16, 20205 yr Glass half empty / half full? Schroedinger's Glass, both half empty and half full at the same time, depending on how it is observed. Besides, if the glass is half full, then you have too much glass. It's over-engineered for the job. Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
August 16, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, LHookins said: I suggest you totally avoid MSFS, even screen shots and videos, if you have any intention of continuing to fly an older sim. Any older sim. No matter how many add-ons you've accumulated. I may do some flying in P3Dv4.5, if only to fly certain aircraft that won't exist in MSFS any time soon, if ever, but it's gonna be painful. Real painful. But at least I'll have the gorgeous Active Sky Cloud Art which should ameliorate the pain of giving up the gorgeous MSFS scenery. Enhanced Atmospherics? Still in beta. Two layers of clouds. No real integration with Active Sky so you can't be flying in clear skies and see a thunderstorm in the distance. The very real possibility of VRAM OOMs. I don't need that grief. At least you can turn it off. Hook No, I'll definitely be flying MSFS a bit later today. No chance I'll be avoiding it. EA is pretty cool, that's what you get for your $60 (you mistyped the price earlier), Truesky doesn't do dramatic skies as well as MSFS but how well does MSFS do VR flights through clouds? They actually both look pretty great for most "normal" weather conditions. Feel free to use ASCA if 2D sprites are your thing, but it's the future now you don't have to look at the 1980s tech if you don't want to. "if only to fly certain aircraft that won't exist in MSFS any time soon" - sure, I'm guessing those "certain aircraft" are "airliners with systems that function properly"? 🙂 VRAM OOMs was just Avsim fake news, if you're flying after HF1 and not using a potato as a GPU. Anyway, should be flying my sim, but instead I'm checking whether MSFS has downloaded yet, posting here and looking at second-hand Cessnas on the internet... Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
August 16, 20205 yr I gladly pay the extra $140 to remove a watermark. 🙂 If you're expecting VR on release day, you may be disappointed. 41 minutes ago, OzWhitey said: "if only to fly certain aircraft that won't exist in MSFS any time soon" - sure, I'm guessing those "certain aircraft" are "airliners with systems that function properly"? 🙂 That's actually funny, but I don't fly jet airliners. Except to try to land a 747 at Meigs or fly inverted under the Golden Gate Bridge. Probably better to have "systems lite" versions of the 747 for those kinds of activities. 😄 My dream sim aircraft would be an A2A DC-3 with Captain of the Ship. I expect we'll see severe glaciation in Hades before I'll see one of those. 46 minutes ago, OzWhitey said: I'm checking whether MSFS has downloaded yet Wait, what? Have downloads already started, or are you waiting for a time to start it? Is the date wrong on my computer? 😄 47 minutes ago, OzWhitey said: looking at second-hand Cessnas on the internet... Mmmmm. 🙂 Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
August 16, 20205 yr It’s crazy to me to see just how big of a cult like attitude most people on this board are taking. If you dare criticize or hint at the idea this sim is going to be anything other than the greatest piece of software ever written, you’re assumed to be some type of terrorist. Y’all are a bunch of children.
August 16, 20205 yr From what I've seen and read testers report that they are just having fun - it won't get any better than that. All of my expectations have already been met and I haven't even flown it yet. Cheers bs Edited August 16, 20205 yr by bean_sprout AMD RYZEN 9 5900X 12 CORE CPU - ZOTAC RTX 3060Ti GPU - NZXT H510i ELITE CASE - EVO M.2 970 500GB DRIVE - 32GB XTREEM 4000 MEM - XPG GOLD 80+ 650 WATT PS - NZXT 280 HYBRID COOLER
August 16, 20205 yr 28 minutes ago, langly said: It’s crazy to me to see just how big of a cult like attitude most people on this board are taking. If you dare criticize or hint at the idea this sim is going to be anything other than the greatest piece of software ever written, you’re assumed to be some type of terrorist. Y’all are a bunch of children. 'tis true. If you plan to say anything negative about MSFS here, you need to have a thick skin! I find that at least a few poster lose their word not allowed if you say anything that could be perceived as negative depite the fact I always try to choose my words carefully and make it clear I'm a paid-up member of the MSFS fan club. We'll see how things are around here tomorrow. Will probably be even more feisty! Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
August 16, 20205 yr 45 minutes ago, langly said: It’s crazy to me to see just how big of a cult like attitude most people on this board are taking. If you dare criticize or hint at the idea this sim is going to be anything other than the greatest piece of software ever written, you’re assumed to be some type of terrorist. Y’all are a bunch of children. There are definitely going to be lots of problems in the short term after release, but compared to other simulators which needed hundreds if not thousands in 3PD purchases to be comparable to the current state of things we have an incredible starting point for a long term simulator to be honed into what will be the most realistic option we have for the foreseeable future. No project this large is even close to perfect on release. Yet it still looks very promising nevertheless... I think the dichotomy of people claiming it will be impeccable immediately and people missing the forest for the trees (literally to some extent) ends up creating a feedback loop that just foments unnecessary negativity that doesn't help with anything... (respectful debate and disagreement being the exception). Edited August 16, 20205 yr by High_Alpha
August 16, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, OzWhitey said: VRAM OOMs was just Avsim fake news, if you're flying after HF1 and not using a potato as a GPU. After HF1. With a 2070rtx. (Not a 2080, but not a potato) and in the frigging default Robinson helo. LatinVFR Miami. Got it to run after I trashed a bunch of settings back to medium, but my rig otherwise is smooth with all settings full right. (And in 1080 not 4K). So... maybe not as bad as it was, but not fake news.
August 16, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, ShawnG said: After HF1. With a 2070rtx. (Not a 2080, but not a potato) and in the frigging default Robinson helo. LatinVFR Miami. Got it to run after I trashed a bunch of settings back to medium, but my rig otherwise is smooth with all settings full right. (And in 1080 not 4K). So... maybe not as bad as it was, but not fake news. 'tis OK, that was far from a serious post that you are quoting - I was just joking around. Most are pretty happy with VRAM in the modern HF2 era, but that's a different topic for a different forum. Edited August 16, 20205 yr by OzWhitey Oz Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777. "There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."
August 16, 20205 yr Gotta love it when someone new comes in and criticizes a forum for its behavior. 😄 Not that there isn't anything to criticize, mind you, it's just funny when it happens. "Um... you think *this* is bad, you ain't seen nuthin' yet." Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
August 16, 20205 yr You guys going stirr crazy yet? 24h15m till release here in Norway. My expectations after watching all the youtube and twitch streamers are super low ... not 😄 Andreas Stangenes http://www.youtube.com/user/krsans78 Add me on gamertag: Bullhorns78
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