Please excuse my ignorance, I have never been involved in the launch of a new sim.

However, I was thinking...

I know we all want the best performance now and the reason for all the tweaks floating around.

However, if and when an official update is made, if one is not cataloging the changes one is doing and or reverts to the default might there be unintended consequences when the official update is released?

And then possibly people complaining about the patch/update making things worse?

Just a thought, any ideas are welcomed!

Edited August 27, 20205 yr by Cmcollazo71

I think it's a question of personal philosophy more than anything. 🙂

Some of us are inveterate tweakers and will experiment with any possible solution, both outside and inside the sim, to improve frame rate. That requires patience, backups, and even note-taking to make sure you can revert to a stock installation if a conflict develops when the sim is updated. 

Others just want to fly the thing, and will experiment with the settings inside the sim but not mess with external tweaks like Nvidia settings or whatever. You may not get the absolute best performance this way, but the sim isn't likely to break when the next patch rolls in. There are already many settings in the sim itself to tweak performance. 

Personally I'm in that second camp. I have a medium-level PC and I'm not trying to run in 4k resolution, so I'm getting acceptable results in MSFS with just the in-sim settings. I'm also mostly interested in bush planes and helicopters (when they arrive) and I never fly airliners in sims, so I don't need extra performance overhead.

That's just me, your approach may be different. There's nothing wrong with following the "tweaker" path if you find it fun and not too frustrating.

oh you poor sweet summer child the history of FS and people Tweaking it goes back since the day it came out...... ....

40 minutes ago, Cmcollazo71 said:

Please excuse my ignorance, I have never been involved in the launch of a new sim.

However, I was thinking...

I know we all want the best performance now and the reason for all the tweaks floating around.

However, if and when an official update is made, if one is not cataloging the changes one is doing and or reverts to the default might there be unintended consequences when the official update is released?

And then possibly people complaining about the patch/update making things worse?

Just a thought, ant ideas are welcomed!

so... in a nutshell, yes.

People who are interested in tweaking, and have an idea as to what is going on when they do what they do, and have an understanding that a patch might blitz their tweaks, and know how to backup their stuff are going to be able to deal.

People who zero interest in tweaking and merely use the in game settings are going to be able to deal.

People who flail around blindly on forums looking for miracle fixes, who try everything that comes along regardless of validity and have no idea what they are doing when they do it are going to potentially have a problem.

as it ever was, as it ever will be.

Thanks I appreciate the input.

And I’m not so young (been simming since MSFS 5.1), just never been around at the launch of a new one, always held on to the prior version until the dust settled. 

But with $1 Game Pass... well why not?

I guess this is my Socratic way of warning the newbies without seeming like a know it all. Asking a question to get replies to help others... 

And then there are those of us who spend countless hours, even days, tweaking, changing, rearranging sliders, buttons, checkboxes, etc., etc. only to find out that now that I've "tuned it to perfection"... the sliders, buttons, checkboxes, etc., etc. are pretty much at their default settings.

Trust me, I know. It just happened to me. 😉 

5 minutes ago, erickrueger said:

And then there are those of us who spend countless hours, even days, tweaking, changing, rearranging sliders, buttons, checkboxes, etc., etc. only to find out that now that I've "tuned it to perfection"... the sliders, buttons, checkboxes, etc., etc. are pretty much at their default settings.

That’s too funny! 😄

Back in the days one day J E S U S tryed flight sim 0.0.01 and he said: oh lord from the galaxys let the  tweaking begin.

and thats how long tweaking its being around 

Edited August 27, 20205 yr by rtodepart

Give me tweaking or give me DEATH! 🇺🇸

The object of this “game” is to come up with the right combination of hardware, add-ons and tweaks that make the sim look and run to our expectations.  It is very hard to win.

50 minutes ago, jrboddie1 said:

The object of this “game” is to come up with the right combination of hardware, add-ons and tweaks that make the sim look and run to our expectations.  It is very hard to win.

lol, i dont agree..sim performs way way better than expected on my below par hardware. so i am happy.

I'm definitely trying to stay away from most tweaks for now.  People are going to do it, but I'm holding off.  If you want more FPS, start with the graphics sliders.  Granted, my performance has more stable than some.  Not amazing fps, but stable.  Some people are going to want to dive in and see what they can do, and that's fine.  It is entirely possible people find things that are big fixes, that has happened in the past.  

I speak only for myself, of course, but sometimes it's easy to get sucked into the idea that the next tweak will be the "holy grail" of tweaks and the seas will part and my sim will run butter smooth.

I've gotten better over the years but much of that has come from the fact that, for the first time in a long time, my hardware is better suited to run MFS 2020 out-of-the-box than in times (sims) past.

Although my PC is a few years old now (i7-4790 and 32GB of RAM), I did invest in an RTX 2070 Super which has helped tremendously in getting a nice, smooth experience, albeit, at reduced settings.

1 hour ago, jrboddie1 said:

The object of this “game” is to come up with the right combination of hardware, add-ons and tweaks that make the sim look and run to our expectations.  It is very hard to win.

This is already the best performing sim in some respects, although in some cases Xplane 11 may beat it in certain situations (hard to test for given different graphics fidelity). The difference is, there are a LOT of objects in this sim, a LOT of trees, buildings, etc.. So it's going to be a bit more inconsistent performance wise compared to older sims, need next gen hardware a little (but not nearly as bad as we needed it for FSX).

So if you fly in a dense area, expect issues, just the way it is unless you have a 2080 ti, and even then if flying in 4k and ultra (expect issues).

 

Edited August 27, 20205 yr by SceneryFX

I think people forget just how poorly past sims ran.  I remember FSX running terribly, no matter how good of a rig you have.  The fact that people are running on high or even ultra at this point is pretty amazing.  FSX was always plagued with micro-stutters and blurry textures that people wanted to eliminate.