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Ok prior I would always purchase from cyberpower my new flight sim computer, this year I am thinking of doing this on my own.  There is enough youtube on how to and thought it would be fun for my son and I to do this.  I want to start purchasing items now in prep for the new graphic cards coming out.  I will most lilkely go with the 3090 card but will wait for benchmark and reviews.  

 

Question is there a site that I can go to that helps me decide what parts go with what?  Meaning if I decide to go with an I9 10700K will it tell me what motherboards to select.  This is where I get lost and have a hard time finding information, same with RAM and RAM speed.

 

Also would it not be a good idea to build it myself with all these high end parts for my first build?  Thanks all in advance!


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High end parts won't affect the build process. The principle is the same. Your motherboard manual is your friend, it will guide you during the build process. We in the forum are here to help too. Scary being your first time, but we all had to start somewhere. 🙂 Research first, and when you are armed with the necessary knowledge dive in. Take your time, don't rush. Take days over it if you like. Not sure, stop and ask. 

 

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You'll need a motherboard with a Z490 chipset for the 10700K.  RAM will be DDR4...you'll want to do some research on that--RAM performance is determined by a combination of both frequency and CAS latency.

Not a lot of big gotchas these days for new builders...a few of note, though, are to make sure your CPU cooling solution fits into your choice of case and that your RAM will not interfere with the CPU cooler.  Some of the large high-performance air coolers don't work with tall memory DIMMs.  Most AIO water coolers don't have that issue...but fitting the radiator in the case is the significant pre-planning issue.

And practice good static mitigation precautions while handling components.


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Hi Anthony.  I use Amazon/Newegg/B&H typically to find parts.  Sometimes you can find all the parts on one site but shop around.


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Thanks!

 

What is the best cpu to get for Flight Sim right now, 2020? 

 

I want to future proof for the 3090 graphics cards which from what I have read is the more important.  


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Probably the 10900K but that's a heck of a lot of money.  I'd go for the 10700K it's a better value.  It's about 400 USD.

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19 hours ago, antney79 said:

Thanks!

What is the best cpu to get for Flight Sim right now, 2020? 

I want to future proof for the 3090 graphics cards which from what I have read is the more important.  

Wait for the new Zen 3 Ryzen generation, which releases in a few weeks, and get one of them with 8-12 cores. I wouldn't buy an Intel desktop CPU in 2020. That's just throwing away money.

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23 hours ago, antney79 said:

Question is there a site that I can go to that helps me decide what parts go with what? 

You have (2) Microcenter stores in the Chicago area.  They have a "build your own" center in each store with advisors dedicated to that theme.  They stock virtually every component you will need at internet pricing.  They will even build it for you for $150.00 to $200.00.  I say that from experience, not to advertise. 

Just did that here in Maryland last month and am thrilled with the results.  One piece of advice.  Do not try to call them on the phone.  Found I needed to go to the store and that worked famously.  I did have them use my 1070 TI since the 3000 series GPU was not out yet. 

My system is unbelievably quiet.  I took the advisor's advice on that for the PSU and cooler.  Late yesterday I heard the system for the first time late during a flight, and I had to strain to hear it. My system specs are in my signature below.

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In fact the 3090 is aimed at the developers not gamers, some believe a 3080 20GB will land 2021 around the $999 mark. 

Or go with Ryzen next gen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSaBQeEPw3U&t=1017s

 

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You'll always get a ton of advice with people telling you don't buy this or wait for that, and if you listened to all that, you'd never buy anything, so I'm not going to suggest anything in particular component-wise. But I will suggest the smartest methodology for building a PC...

The most important thing to consider when building a PC is not which CPU or GPU or PSU you want or prefer, it is the motherboard. Everything else you can buy, fit, upgrade, or tweak, is entirely dependent upon that in terms of physical sockets and expansion/support capabilities, meaning it is the motherboard which informs, steers, and limits, all other component choices.

With this in mind, and with an eye to the future, look carefully at the trends for which CPU socket type all the motherboard manufacturers appear to be favouring for the processors you either want now, or might potentially want in the future. The socket type in particular for the CPU will limit what processors you can fit down the line in a couple of years, and to some extent the expansion slots on the board will inform this choice too.

Once you know all the system support and hardware support features of a decent motherboard which appears to have some extended life expectancy in it, this will best inform your decision for every other component, since the motherboard has a manual which tells you all this and quite often the website of the motherboard manufaturer is very helpful in this regard, usually with a labelled picture of the board, explaining its specs and what it supports.

This is a good starting point from which to start snooping around various online computer stores, weighing up costs versus features to determine choices, and merely doing this will serve to make you much more clued up and confident about matters before you have even spent a penny. When you have that main foundation picked out and are confident you are purchasing the right motherboard, everything else pretty much will fall into place component-wise, with it largely being then down to budget as to how far you go with each additional bit you plug into that motherboard.

Think of it like building a house. The motherboard is equivalent to the foundation through which all the utility connections enter into the house. So if you get that right, your fancy bathroom or kitchen appliances will then work properly. Same with a PC; get the foundation that is the motherboard right and you know everything else will work right.

Actually putting the thing together physically is the easy bit, although be aware of power requirements and do not skimp on the PSU; a decent brand of PSU is expensive, but it is the lifeblood of any PC.

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Thanks Chock!  That seems the hrs part with the motherboards since there are so many choices.  
 

I will probably go to the micro center near me to see what they recommend.  When I contacted them they said a gaming computer would be $599 to build, I would rather do that for that type of money.  $100 or $200 I would let them do it but think it would be fun to do it my self.  
 

thanks for the other tips as well!

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Okay. Here's the easy way to pick a good motherboard: Go to an online store which stocks pretty much all the well known-brands and has a decent search facility. Do a search for motherboards and then list them in descending order, high price to low price.

Now, scroll down the list until you get past the ones with the 'Jeezus H Christ! I'm not paying that!' price tags. This is your starting point. Now compare the features of the brands you have actually heard of at that acceptable price point.

When you find some potential candidates (say perhaps three different brands), look up a few reviews for each one.

Seriously, this is the best way to do it.

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4 hours ago, G-RFRY said:

In fact the 3090 is aimed at the developers not gamers, some believe a 3080 20GB will land 2021 around the $999 mark. 

Or go with Ryzen next gen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSaBQeEPw3U&t=1017s

 

I'm not sure I agree with that.  Even if that's who it's "aimed at" it doesn't mean it isn't hands down the best card for flight simmers.  


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