Another review about the Scenery

[GSalden 4,657]

https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?21239-KerrSpectives-So-What-About-The-MSFS-2020-Scenery/view/1

Edited September 4, 2020 by Ray Proudfoot
Removing a contentious word

[scotchegg 4,186]

a) Why did you title this thread ‘An honest review...’? Are you suggesting other reviews, or reviews which differ from this one, are dishonest?

b) The tldr for this review is ‘the scenery’s great, but it’s not perfect’, which I think few would argue with. However at the end the reviewer laments “the fact that for a year Microsoft hyped this product up like we would never again need another scenery addon. Rightly or wrongly, I expected error-free perfection, or at least darn close to it.” When did Microsoft ever directly or indirectly say MSFS’s scenery is so good we will never need another scenery add on? 
 

The problem is in that last line: “I expected error-free perfection”. And that’s the problem with a lot of the criticism, it’s just a lazy attempt by detractors to say “see, they said it was going to be perfect and it’s not, so it’s failed and you should come back to P3D” etc.
 

Yawn.

[dukeav 46]

6 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

“see, they said it was going to be perfect and it’s not, so it’s failed and you should come back to P3D” etc.

... as is the purpose of this thread. 

[scotchegg 4,186]

Just now, dukeav said:

... as is the purpose of this thread. 

Yes, I think we all know the OP😄

[styckx 1,871]

Yawn..  There is a whole lot of wasted energy from a certain sect of this community running around yelling "STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE" in long winded posts.

[Kopteeni 819]

15 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

However at the end the reviewer laments “the fact that for a year Microsoft hyped this product up like we would never again need another scenery addon.

It sure has been fascinating to see people's hopes and dreams slowly evolve (in their minds) into promises made by Asobo where in the published material these promises are nowhere to be found. And when you ask for a link, silence ensues.

Edited September 4, 2020 by Kopteeni

[charlie130 196]

Interesting article, perspective and expectations being a central topic. 

A key point for me, was the reference to 3rd party scenery, as Orbx for example. A concern would be the integration of the 3rd party areas if/when ASOBO update scenery.

I have airports in P3d which have two sets of runway markings, one from LM and one from a third party. Bgl exclusions don't always work, necessitating delving into folders and files to correct errors. 

Personally, I'd rather MSFS be a single scenery product. When I move into it, I don't want to be spending hundreds on add on scenery (again!).

My expectations are somewhat lower than younger simmers. I was thrilled 30+ years ago with a green earth, blue sky and wireframe Cessna! 🙂

 

[Rimshot 1,142]

Thanks Gerard. Now I'll definitely ditch MSFS and go back to those other sims... Not

[SAS443 1,723]

NY is fantastic in both sims.  We should be lucky to have the priviledge of soaring the virtual skies in high fidelity environments no matter the platforms. It is a good time to be a flight simmer.

[spacedyemeerkat 421]

Crikey. That first shot... looks like it's from 2005.

[Nyxx 6,993]

1 hour ago, GSalden said:

https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?21239-KerrSpectives-So-What-About-The-MSFS-2020-Scenery/view/1

In another post you said on your friends PC you did not like the night lighting up high, well its going to be fixed and it could be this month, also the live weather winds etc. I remind you we are only 3 weeks in. This sim needs little adding to it unlike P3D, that needs any airport you wish to fly to, A weather engine for weather ASCA in your case for clouds, a shader your spend hours tuning, countless PR ...the list goes on. This out of the box is a new world and needs very very little. Not airline ready I agree but I have so much to see and do I dont miss even the FSL and you know that's a lot coming from me. I am buying is a few airports and will add to them all at a much lower cost than P3D. Probably as they don't need to do all the areas around the airports.

 

 

Edited September 4, 2020 by Nyxx

[Dirk98 354]

Please, somebody, come up with An Dishonest Review to compare and balance things out then 😄

 

Edited September 4, 2020 by Dirk98

[SteveFx 258]

I thought that the article was fair and positive.

One  thing that I have noticed looking in the bing map app and bing on the web Is that there is often additional data that the AI could use and seems not to.

e,g if you look at Cardiff in the uk.  

In street mode bing on the web has the 3D cities option which for Cardiff shows building footprints and heights and even has some low resolution 3D models of significant buildings.

Using the map app you can view Cardiff in birds eye view.  The resolution isn’t good enough for photogrammetry but could the extra data help the AI pick better buildings from it’s available set?

 

Edited September 4, 2020 by SteveFx

[Gazzareth 808]

I thought some of his more informative words were further down the thread, replying to a someone very down on the new sim:

"In my article, I was drawing attention to aspects of the scenery that still need attention. However, using stock P3d with FSEarthTiles, and using stock MSFS 2020 is like comparing a push bike to a Ferrari.

Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. The new sim is brilliant, but the execution of some aspects of the scenery urgently needs to be re-worked. But I would not go back to the old home-made route."

He's not wrong..

G

 

[GSalden 4,657]

2 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

In another post you said on your friends PC you did not like the night lighting up high, well its going to be fixed and it could be this month, also the live weather winds etc. I remind you we are only 3 weeks in. This sim need little adding to it unlike P3D, that needs any airport you wish to fly to, AS for weather ASCA in your case for clouds countless PR ...the list goes on. This out of the box is a new world. Not airline ready I agree but I have so much to see and do I dont miss even the FSL and you know that's a lot coming from me.

 

 

If you remember : a couple of months ago I wrote that If MSFS was able to be smooth with jetflying and support Prosim I would be among the fiirst  to buy it.

It will take at least 4 months to see an enhanced SDK. And as I pointed out with default jetflying stutters appear in the outside views.

There are a lot people thinking that this level of eyecandy + complex addon jetliners still result in supersmooth flying. If complex addon jetliners take away a lot of CPU performance than there is less left for lots of eyecandy and still being smooth.
A faster graphics card with more VRAM will help but the CPU remains the same. There will always be a bottleneck...

The link that I posted was a review like I have posted links before. Some people are not commenting on the review but rather like to spent their time writing about the poster.. 🧐