AIG OCI here. It. does the job and not much messing around after the initial setup. Easy to add additional airline fleets as well.

 

On 10/1/2020 at 6:29 PM, simfan1983 said:

Ultimate Traffic Live for me - but run the Ai2Utl tool that allows you to use FLAI aircraft models/paints. It's then very low maintenance, starts with P3D and is trouble free. UT Live includes GA traffic. Schedules are very out of date, but that isn't important to me, some differ on this point.

Be aware that the developer has pretty much abandoned the software, support is available in the forum from other users but there probably won't be any further development.

And that for me is the main problem with UT2 Live plus the lack of Power Pack capabilities and no official v5 support as far as I know although some people have it working.

I had the original UT2 and it worked well but there was sporadic support from the developer although the user forum over at Flight 1 was able to offer help. This was the main reason I never purchased UT2 Live. Shame to see the latest product go the same way.

 

 

 

On 10/1/2020 at 8:19 PM, Gridley said:

I use AIG/OCI for the models, but I use VoxATC to inject and control the AI.

I also use VoxAtc it generates its own traffic from the Bgl files and does a great job separating traffic. Without it you often have to wait for 30 other planes in a row for a runway at busy airports and fly into other aircraft to on approach etc.

Edited October 4, 20205 yr by rob0203

AIG for me as well. I was a big fan of the UT products over the years, but all of them required a lot of work to replace the missing aircraft assignments.

AIG is so much better. Any negative comments about it are from those who have had install issues. Forums are very active and the developers are very responsive. If you have trouble, that's the place to get info.

You can download from here https://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=28686.0

On 10/1/2020 at 7:52 PM, abranpuko said:

Real Traffic + PSXseecontraffic, or Real Traffic + Lorbylivetraffic.

the best in real real airlines

Same here.  Absolutely fantastic. Especially with the airlines not running their normal schedules due covid its realism at its best. The schedules from UT live are years old and traffic global is also a few years old. Like I said they don't represent whats going on at the moment. 

I also like the fact psxseecon tells you at the end which airline your missing that it picked up so you can add it. 

I can do a 10 hour 4 sector day and follow the same aircraft around the whole lot from start to finish using psxseecon.  You just need a very good ai addon aircraft package. 

 

1 hour ago, fluffyflops said:

Same here.  Absolutely fantastic. Especially with the airlines not running their normal schedules due covid its realism at its best. The schedules from UT live are years old and traffic global is also a few years old. Like I said they don't represent whats going on at the moment. 

I also like the fact psxseecon tells you at the end which airline your missing that it picked up so you can add it. 

I can do a 10 hour 4 sector day and follow the same aircraft around the whole lot from start to finish using psxseecon.  You just need a very good ai addon aircraft package. 

 

True! 

And now that i have also msfs, im just waiting for the moment we can do the same in that platform! 

Wowww

I am using AIG for the airlines and GA traffic plus Military AI Works (MAIW) for the military AI.

I think I use Traffic Global by Just Flight. The neverending early access program....

1 hour ago, SAS443 said:

I think I use Traffic Global by Just Flight. The neverending early access program....

You best get used to it.  This is the normal way of doing things nowadays. 

Im coming back from the hobby after a while. When i get the new PC, I will be using a combination of mostly AIG traffic (like 99%) and lorbyLiveTraffic. Basicly, I disable lorbyLiveTraffic from using any scheduled airlines (delta, american, KLM, frontier). The only aircraft it uses in the sim are charter airlines (omni air, volga dnepr and antonov airlines, USA jet, and even the NASA 747). That way, the airports have plenty of traffic on the ground, and charter flights are accurately represented in the sim. 

 

LorbyLiveTraffic can even see military aircraft like C-17s, kc-135s and others. So live military traffic in the air is also represented.

On 10/4/2020 at 11:51 AM, rob0203 said:

I also use VoxAtc it generates its own traffic from the Bgl files and does a great job separating traffic. Without it you often have to wait for 30 other planes in a row for a runway at busy airports and fly into other aircraft to on approach etc.

I used VoxATC years ago and loved it. I can't remember... does it come with it's own AI or does it use another thrid party? Also, I was hoping to repurchase it but had mixed feedback about it's stability in P3Dv4.5... any ideas?

58 minutes ago, Rockliffe said:

I used VoxATC years ago and loved it. I can't remember... does it come with it's own AI or does it use another thrid party? Also, I was hoping to repurchase it but had mixed feedback about it's stability in P3Dv4.5... any ideas?

It gets the traffic from BGL files. So if you have a traffic package which is BGL based it build the traffic from that. Traffic Global and AIG works with it.

So if you are at EHAM it will load a lot of KLM etc. 

I use Traffic Global with it, works really well! 

Some people don't like it because they want every airline exact as it is, but what I want is a believable environment!

BTW: You don't have to repurchase there is a update for V5!

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by rob0203

7 minutes ago, rob0203 said:

It gets the traffic from BGL files. So if you have a traffic package which is BGL based it build the traffic from that. Traffic Global and AIG works with it.

So if you are at EHAM it will load a lot of KLM etc. 

I use Traffic Global with it, works really well! 

Some people don't like it because they want every airline exact as it is, but what I want is a believable environment!

BTW: You don't have to repurchase there is a update for V5!

Brilliant Rob, thanks. I'll take a closer look at it. Traffic Glopbal? Still in beta?

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by Rockliffe

6 hours ago, Rockliffe said:

Brilliant Rob, thanks. I'll take a closer look at it. Traffic Glopbal? Still in beta?

Yes, but in combination with VoxAtc it does the job and it is the only program which actually separates aircraft.

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by rob0203

44 minutes ago, rob0203 said:

Yes, but in combination with VoxAtc it does the job and it is the only program which actually separates aircraft.

What version of P3d are you using VoxATC with Rob?

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by Rockliffe

Im curious as to how well it controls AI (ground handling? Tripple landings at ATL?)