October 5, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, Wobbie said: Dave, Asobo is a developer, contracted by Microsoft to develop the game, not to sell it. They do no selling of the game whatsoever, with no sales or marketing platform. Your argument that Asobo must maintain good sales numbers and to make a profit from Microsofts is invalid. I don't pretend to know the legal arrangements that Asobo has with Microsoft, and I doubt that you do either. If Asobo, or Microsoft, or whoever, don't have the sales and profit from MSFS that they expect, then I doubt that it will be fully supported for 10 years. I really hope that it is supported for that long, and improved and expanded as well. I'm just not counting on it. Dave Simulator: P3Dv6.1 System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home
October 5, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, dave2013 said: I don't pretend to know the legal arrangements that Asobo has with Microsoft, and I doubt that you do either. If Asobo, or Microsoft, or whoever, don't have the sales and profit from MSFS that they expect, then I doubt that it will be fully supported for 10 years. I really hope that it is supported for that long, and improved and expanded as well. I'm just not counting on it. Dave No need for any legal knowledge.. One is a developer, paid by contract for developing, the other makes money by selling. We know what happened with ACES Gaming Studio that was no longer performing. They got closed. However, their situation was different, as they were a division of Microsoft, not a contracted games developer. I suppose that, in the future, Microsoft can end the contract with Asobo, or the contract can expire, the sim will still be supported by add-on developers. Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
October 5, 20205 yr Anyone would think people here want the contract to end reading some responses here. Rather than be pleased that commitment is being made to the hobby, let's just say they are lying about the number of copies sold and if that doesn't work then we'll just assume most of them got a refund. Currently circumnavigating the world in a mix of Cessna and Piper aircraft. My Default Setup; MSFS, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster Hotas X, TrackIR, Samsung Galaxy Tab, JustFlight Piper Arrow. Simworks Quest Kodiak 100. Wishlist; Honeycomb Bravo, Honeycomb Charlie. 1:400 Airline Model Collector.
October 5, 20205 yr 11 hours ago, JoeFackel said: But what when Microsoft may pull the plug on the AZURE stream in 5 years? You've got to be kidding. Regards bs AMD RYZEN 9 5900X 12 CORE CPU - ZOTAC RTX 3060Ti GPU - NZXT H510i ELITE CASE - EVO M.2 970 500GB DRIVE - 32GB XTREEM 4000 MEM - XPG GOLD 80+ 650 WATT PS - NZXT 280 HYBRID COOLER
October 5, 20205 yr On 10/3/2020 at 9:26 AM, Scottoest said: sim has been in development for 7.5 year Does that mean we have only 2.5 years of support left, out of the 10 mentioned? After all, Its been on development for 7.5 now............j/k Edited October 5, 20205 yr by CarlosF Windows 11 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Asus Prime Z690 | i7 12700KF HT | DeepCool LS520 SE | MSI 5070 Ti Ventus OC | 64GB G.Skill XMP II | Lian Li 216 LANCOOL RGB | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alfa - Bravo - Charlie | MSFS 2024 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Curved 27" MSI | JBL Quantum 810
October 5, 20205 yr Its so strange. I had install issues in the Alpha and was unable to download for a few days. But after they did a fix, I never had problems again, and I have probably done a full reinstall about 9 or 10 times, now. One wonders what it is that makes a difference. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
October 7, 20205 yr On 10/5/2020 at 10:18 PM, bean_sprout said: You've got to be kidding. Regards bs Indeed a crazy idea ... as MS would stop support for an Flightsimulator out of the blue. System: i9 [email protected] - 32 GB RAM - Aorus 1080ti --- Sim/Addons: P3D v5 + ProSim737
October 7, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, JoeFackel said: Indeed a crazy idea ... as MS would stop support for an Flightsimulator out of the blue. Remember ACES? Well, that was a bit different, as ACES belonged to Microsoft. Asobo is contracted by Microsoft to support MSFS & other games, if any. Microsoft is marketing & supplying the backend to the sim. Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
October 7, 20205 yr 16 minutes ago, Wobbie said: Microsoft is marketing & supplying the backend to the sim So you see the weak point in ASOBO's claim THEY will support the sim 10 years. Pull the plug of your internet connection to see whats left from the scenery (don't forget to deactivate rolling cache). And thats the problem with the claim that the stunnign MSFS scenery comes without a price. It actually with costs: you are only renting it. You need a fast internet connection and whenever it breaks down or MS switches off their scenery server all the gloriness is gone. Sad, but true. Edited October 7, 20205 yr by JoeFackel System: i9 [email protected] - 32 GB RAM - Aorus 1080ti --- Sim/Addons: P3D v5 + ProSim737
October 7, 20205 yr Thats neat that they used Forzas engine and tweaked it for use in MSFS. Great link thanks!
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