October 3, 20205 yr The article does say 1 million unique players, which could mean literally 1 million different players. But the word unique is frequently misused and this was a marketing piece. The release has obviously been successful in terms of numbers, but many would be gamepass users checking out the flavour of the month. Some of those may not continue when they realise they can't drop bombs or shoot down other aircraft. John B
October 3, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, G-RFRY said: FSX sold over a million copy`s with less investment and again nearly another million on steam. Mr Negative. FSX relied heavily on the advancement done on prior FS iterations. Took them 3 years to release it despite that. And FSX-SE was introduced on Steam 6 years ago, and at a 80% discount. Off course people bought it, even I did (several years after my initial DVD purchase) since I could get it for USD 5(!). Dovetail was basically giving the game away FOR FREE. OFF COURSE IT SELLS! "Microsoft Flight Simulator X: Steam Edition, which launched yesterday, will be initially available for $4.99 for a limited time, then moving to $12.49 for the remainder of the sale, which still represents a 50% discount on the game's full price." EASA PPL SEPL + NQ / CB-IR in progress MSFS24 | X-Plane 12
October 3, 20205 yr That ForzaTech engine is insane. I am so glad that it is being used in MSFS. Those of you who have played Forza Horizon 4 already know how gorgeous that game is. No wonder msfs looks breathtaking. By the way ForzaTech will support Raytracing in Forza 8. Baber My Youtube Channel http://www.youtube.com/user/HDOnlive
October 3, 20205 yr I've got a question on this. I just learned Forza Horizon is developed by Playground Games (and published by MS as is MSFS). How can Asobo use the engine developed by another developer? Obviously they had to license it? Plus, further development will depend on Playground Games. Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
October 3, 20205 yr 50 minutes ago, Wobbie said: Is this 1M fact, from Microsoft, or heresy from another? I sincerely hope you meant hearsay <whistles> OS: Win11 Home; Mobo: Asus TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4; CPU: Intel i5-12400 (Alder Lake) 4.4 GHzRAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU: MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] SSD: Corsair Force MP510 (for OS); 2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)HDD: Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet Fulcrum One Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo throttle, Thrustmaster Airbus TCA sidestick & throttle, Logitech Pro pedals, Xbox wireless gamepad (1st gen)
October 3, 20205 yr 17 minutes ago, pmb said: I've got a question on this. I just learned Forza Horizon is developed by Playground Games (and published by MS as is MSFS). How can Asobo use the engine developed by another developer? Obviously they had to license it? Plus, further development will depend on Playground Games. Kind regards, Michael Forzatech is a combined graphics and physics engine developed by Turn10 and Microsoft for the Forza franchise. The developer of the game is just using that engine.. it is very rare for a dev company to also write the game engine.. independant engines such as Unity, Big World Games, Unreal, ForzaTech etc are just tools. Forzatech engine specializes in high-speed collision detection and physics simulation, and was also developed for the new XBox when it comes out, so being a MS development, it makes sense that Asobo used this game engine for MSFS2020. It's development will be down to MS and Turn10, not the developers of Forza. Graham Edited October 3, 20205 yr by Moria15 System specs... CPU AMD5950, GPU AMD6900XT, ROG crosshair VIII Hero motherboard, Corsair 64 gig LPX 3600 mem, Air cooling on GPU, Kraken x pump cooling on CPU. Samsung G7 curved 27" monitor at 2k resolution ULTRA default settings.
October 3, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, 109Sqn said: I sincerely hope you meant hearsay <whistles> I was thinking the same, there's a big difference. Wobbie, are you always this negative? Or have you been saving up to use it here? 😉
October 3, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Moria15 said: Forzatech is a combined graphics and physics engine developed by Turn10 and Microsoft for the Forza franchise. .... Graham Thanks, that makes it clear. Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
October 3, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, 109Sqn said: I sincerely hope you meant hearsay <whistles> Me bad.. Spellcheck on Android.. Hearsay it was meant to be, for clarification Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
October 3, 20205 yr I'm not being negative, it is nice to know actual facts. Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
October 3, 20205 yr We need a French speaker with access to the original article to know for sure what was said. FSX | DCS | X-Plane 11 | MSFS 2020 | IL2:BoX Favorite aircraft currently: MSFS Savage Cub
October 3, 20205 yr I hope that this puts a cease and desist order on those asking how long FS2020 will be around / supported. Sheesh bs AMD RYZEN 9 5900X 12 CORE CPU - ZOTAC RTX 3060Ti GPU - NZXT H510i ELITE CASE - EVO M.2 970 500GB DRIVE - 32GB XTREEM 4000 MEM - XPG GOLD 80+ 650 WATT PS - NZXT 280 HYBRID COOLER
October 3, 20205 yr Author 1 hour ago, Wobbie said: So, if 50 thousand people played 20 times each, in a month, that's 1M users. OK, far from 1M sales. So, every time you start or restart the game, it counts that as a use. You reboot 5 times during a session, that's 5 uses. That makes better sense than sales of 1M. That... isn't even close to how the measuring of "players" works. It means one million unique accounts downloaded and launched the sim, whether it was for five minutes or five hundred hours.
October 3, 20205 yr Author 22 minutes ago, Wobbie said: I'm not being negative, it is nice to know actual facts. It's both nice to know facts, AND you're being weirdly negative to an almost-conspiratorial degree. I hesitate to call it concern trolling, though I'm not sure what to make of the assertion that each time a person reboots their computer Microsoft are counting that as a "player", for example.
October 3, 20205 yr The original article from La Tribune is behind a paywall, but the beginning of the article is available and I read there that when Asobo talks about 1 million copies sold, they are referring to Plague Tale Innocence and definitely not FS2020. I can see how that could be confusing at first glance because FS2020 is mentioned earlier in the same paragraph. After mentioning a million copies sold, Sébastien Wloch is then quoted as saying that considering the excellent reviews they got, sales should keep going at a good clip, and that is mentioned with a link to a review of Plague Tale Innocence. So there is not doubt he was not talking about FS2020. At least in that non-paywalled section of the article. (edit: I found the complete article on pressreader and confirm the above) Other tidbits from the full article: - About 20 pilots in the team, half of those learned to fly during the development of the game. So they spent a lot of time developing the game around that pilot school experience. - Planning ("à priori" meaning that's the plan) to release new free content once a month on average, and bug fixes regularly. New content will generally be focused on a large new area (continent or large territory) to incentivise pilots to discover it. - Then each quarter new more extensive content (such as airplanes) will be released, but not for free. - Helicopters and gliders coming - "Flight Simulator is going to keep us busy for awhile. At least 10 years, certinaly more. We will keep our 120 employees on this project and expect to even increase that number." Source: https://www.pressreader.com/france/la-tribune-france/20200917/281934545372753 Edited October 3, 20205 yr by Machdiamond
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