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3090 in FS

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3 hours ago, Richard Sennett said:

You guys might want to take a gander at this video well worth the look

 

Release version (August), objects and trees popping in like crazy.

People who complain about the latest patches should watch it.

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6 hours ago, Richard Sennett said:

You guys might want to take a gander at this video well worth the look

 

I was with the family all weekend so didn't do any more testing until now. (I am being naughty and doing this whilst I work!). I am normally very skeptical of these video's, but the start of this video has helped me. I disabled Full screen optimizations and disabled game mode. Then I set CPU priority to high. And with that, there goes the final stutters.

So, now I disabled the dev mode fps counter. Disabled my g-sync overlay counter. This thing is ready to fly! No more tweaking, no more looking at FPS and messing around. At last! I can zoom the extra 300 over London like butter. Take the C172 up. Land the Dreamliner. Now we just need some good add on planes 🙂

1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I was with the family all weekend so didn't do any more testing until now. (I am being naughty and doing this whilst I work!). I am normally very skeptical of these video's, but the start of this video has helped me. I disabled Full screen optimizations and disabled game mode. Then I set CPU priority to high. And with that, there goes the final stutters.

So, now I disabled the dev mode fps counter. Disabled my g-sync overlay counter. This thing is ready to fly! No more tweaking, no more looking at FPS and messing around. At last! I can zoom the extra 300 over London like butter. Take the C172 up. Land the Dreamliner. Now we just need some good add on planes 🙂

I did the Windows tips and the high priority tip, and concur that it made a measurable difference. I have been keeping a log since I will be reconfiguring a whole new pc soon enough.

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3 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I was with the family all weekend so didn't do any more testing until now. (I am being naughty and doing this whilst I work!). I am normally very skeptical of these video's, but the start of this video has helped me. I disabled Full screen optimizations and disabled game mode. Then I set CPU priority to high. And with that, there goes the final stutters.

So, now I disabled the dev mode fps counter. Disabled my g-sync overlay counter. This thing is ready to fly! No more tweaking, no more looking at FPS and messing around. At last! I can zoom the extra 300 over London like butter. Take the C172 up. Land the Dreamliner. Now we just need some good add on planes 🙂

Very happy for you Ian.

I did my first two flights on new PC today Orbx EGLC to UK2000 EGGD, RTSS FPS locked at 35 and I just could not believe the difference looking from one wing to another at the gate at EGLC, loading into the flight it was like I painted 35 on my screen, it never changed no matter what, no long frames, nothing.

Then I did Orbx LOWG to Orbx LOWI and thought I would get some long frames close to LOWI, loading in detail etc, nothing, just 35 never moved. 

I also did the Windows tips and exe tips. I thought some of his in sim tips were not that good like depth of field is only for drone. 

Happy days.

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One thing I noticed, if you go in the settings screen and then fly, you get stutters. If you don’t open the settings screen and fly, it’s fine. So, maybe set all your settings as you need them. Then exit the sim. Then re load and don’t touch the settings screen again.

I tested this 3 times. Same result each time. 

3 hours ago, FrankR409 said:

I did the Windows tips and the high priority tip, and concur that it made a measurable difference. I have been keeping a log since I will be reconfiguring a whole new pc soon enough.

I noticed the author did not mention in the NV CP changing Low Latency Mode to ULTRA.  In my setup this gave about 12-15% reduction in GPU utilization w/ no untoward effect noticed.  This may work only for people who are limiting frames thru vsync which is what i do, but 12-15% is a nice improvement for the check of a box.

Also, Process Lasso lets you change CPU priority and keep it where you set it between reboots.  It has some other nice features as well, so I recommend it.

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2 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

One thing I noticed, if you go in the settings screen and then fly, you get stutters. If you don’t open the settings screen and fly, it’s fine. So, maybe set all your settings as you need them. Then exit the sim. Then re load and don’t touch the settings screen again.

I tested this 3 times. Same result each time. 

Interesting find. Its also why I think some have always had trouble with live weather.

I open sim goto where you load a fight plan, press fly nothing else. Never touch setting or anything, live weather imo is always great and like you have found, opening setting etc seems to be a bad Idea, set your setting, live weather and anything else. Exit sim if you make changers, don't touch them again once your happy 🙂 

I also fine M.2 make a huge difference in load times over my old SSD. But from 500MB per second to 3,500 you would hope so 🙂 People say it only makes a difference with load time but anything that needs to be read from PC at anytime is going to make a huge difference, P3D ran so much better on an SSD to an old HHD and imo after what I have just seen Its not doing any harm when MSFS is calling for anything. 🙂

Window 10 load time is nothing, After Bios its desktop, boom. Its takes longer for me to enter my password.

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Yes exactly, I’m Running 2 x m.2 Samsung 1TB drives and never had problems with loading times for anything. 

I installed 2 2TB NVME M.2 drives and did this so I could clone the gargantuan install for P3D, you know the one that takes an entire day to install?   No problems w/ my cloned copy booting w/ a dual boot GUI, but someone here said when they did this w/ their MSFS drive they could not get the source drive to load MSFS anymore I think is what they said, so I've been afraid to try.  Perhaps their cloned drive was not identical hardware to their source drive, and mine is so maybe I'm ok not sure.  

Noel

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Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

Just to throw this in:

I am currently running the 3080 and at 1440p@150% render scale with everything on ultra except shadows which are set to medium i keep steady 60FPS in all situations.

Rest of the system is i9-9900k @4.8, 32GB RAM. Monitor is a 77" Samsung TV.

So my conclusion is that the 3080 is well worth the money. Not to mention its power running other AAA games. For example Red Dead Redemption runs at 60FPS on 4k ultra.

 

So to everyone who is waiting to get his 3080/3090 i'd say its worth the wait!

 

Best,

Tom

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10 minutes ago, Noel said:

I installed 2 2TB NVME M.2 drives

Are these drives really making any noticable different in performance/loading time over a SSD? I asked my "PC guy" about that and he replied i'd probably not notice any benefit from them.

I was thinking about getting NVME's and like to hear your opinion.

Thanks!

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13 minutes ago, ThomseN_inc said:

Are these drives really making any noticable different in performance/loading time over a SSD? I asked my "PC guy" about that and he replied i'd probably not notice any benefit from them.

I was thinking about getting NVME's and like to hear your opinion.

Thanks!

There is some discussion about this here: https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/584445-nvme-for-fs2020
In my experience, an Nvme is faster but it depends on what you use it for. For games/Flight simulator, the loading times will be a bit shorter. I wouldn't recommend upgrading your motherboard for it, but if you have unused M2 slots recommend using them. Nvme drives are not much more expensive than SATA SSD's and are faster, so there is a benefit. It won't solve performance issues in the sim, you just have to wait a few seconds less than with a SATA SSD.

 

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1 minute ago, ThomseN_inc said:

Are these drives really making any noticable different in performance/loading time over a SSD? I asked my "PC guy" about that and he replied i'd probably not notice any benefit from them.

I was thinking about getting NVME's and like to hear your opinion.

Thanks!

I can't speak to MSFS on a SATA3 SSD since I installed directly to the NVme M.2 drive, so really can't say too much about loading beyond it *should* be up to 6x faster, but that is only to the extent MSFS can take the data as fast as it can be delivered by the NVme M.2 drive.  But if we say for example how long does Win10 Pro desktop take to load it's really about 1.5 seconds tops.  Almost instant.  If that's true for your SSD then I would have to say in terms of MSFS it won't make a giant difference, but again it may depend on how the application can set itself up when the .exe file is opened, how receptive the initialization is.  I don't have an SSD now but I do have a SATA HDD.  Here is the benchmark for the NVme M.2 drive.  Gotta love the access time via the M.2 port:

diskbench-NVme-M-2.png

And here is the SATA HDD, just for kicks.  SSD should be about 5x faster I think, so random read around 400-500Mb/sec

diskbench.png

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

4 minutes ago, Noel said:

I can't speak to MSFS on a SATA3 SSD since I installed directly to the NVme M.2 drive, so really can't say too much about loading beyond it *should* be up to 6x faster, but that is only to the extent MSFS can take the data as fast as it can be delivered by the NVme M.2 drive.  But if we say for example how long does Win10 Pro desktop take to load it's really about 1.5 seconds tops.  Almost instant.  If that's true for your SSD then I would have to say in terms of MSFS it won't make a giant difference, but again it may depend on how the application can set itself up when the .exe file is opened, how receptive the initialization is.  I don't have an SSD now but I do have a SATA HDD.  Here is the benchmark for the NVme M.2 drive.  Gotta love the access time via the M.2 port:

diskbench-NVme-M-2.png

And here is the SATA HDD, just for kicks.  SSD should be about 5x faster I think, so random read around 400-500Mb/sec

diskbench.png

Thank your for the heads up! Will see...maybe i just buy one and try it 🙂

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39 minutes ago, ThomseN_inc said:

Are these drives really making any noticable different in performance/loading time over a SSD? I asked my "PC guy" about that and he replied i'd probably not notice any benefit from them.

I was thinking about getting NVME's and like to hear your opinion.

Thanks!

I did comment on the last page, yes they make a huge difference and if anyone tells you other wise don't ever listen to them again.

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