the 787 flies way better than when first released! You can take some nice flights in it... and it looks perfect. Useable, and good looking.... needs a FBW team to hit it up for sure, but I do enjoy the 787 and 748 for that matter

My Opinion - she flies very well, i did a lot of flights with her at this time, and have to say that the plane performs pretty fine !

 

cheers 😉

I fly the 787 all the time.  There is a bit of a trick to getting it to hold the airspeed, other than that it gives me no trouble.  I have learned not to try and land with full flaps.

Well hopefully later this year we will have the Quality Wings 787. 

The 787 needs work,I just don't like the-10 its long and ungainly

hopefully someone cuts it down to -8 or-9

9 hours ago, GSalden said:

Cpt Canada uses it a lot. However he takes off manually and then flies at least 5 min by hand and he always approached and lands manually....

He did a 8 hour flight and Drawyah did a 14 hour flight Amsterdam to Santiago (on IVAO) with the 787. I just think some people can't figure out to fly the aircraft.  No one should be flying a 787 at 43000 feet.

Edited February 10, 20215 yr by jbdbow1970

10 hours ago, Tom Wright said:

Just because it's not FSLabs doesn't mean it's rubbish!

He didn't say it was rubbish. You put words in his mouth. He said it wasn't study level, which it isn't.

5 hours ago, RaptyrOne said:

And to suggest that my complimenting the FBW A32NX project is an insult to FSL is even more absurd.

I think your request for him to chill out might be double edged. He didn't intend to offend you or insult you, but you responded with swords drawn and guns blazing, Raptyr. 😂

Everyone has a different opinion of what study level means. You said the FBW was near study level, to which the other guy disagreed. And imo he's right. The FBW mod is maybe 8-9% as system complete as the FSLabs. To compare them isn't fair to either addon, and that's what he was getting at.

The FBW can't even follow a STAR without drifting off course. The fuel burn is 50% lower than what it should be, and the center of lift is way off from where it needs to be. (Check the attitude at cruise and compare it to PFD screenshots of A32Neo's)

Though you're right about one thing: The FBW is still lightyears ahead of the default A320 and 787. 

Well after a test flight last night and after a bit of learning it seemed to handle quite well.  I noticed some were saying early on in the post that it’s difficult to taxi. I also noticed this and found what worked for me to taxi correctly. I use a joystick (extreme 3D pro) and twist the joystick to steer. I found that you only need the slightest twist for the nose wheel to turn. Too much twist resulted in wheel turning too far and getting an under steer effect. You can see this by using head on outside view. The tyres seem to scrub and take a wider arc even more noticeable at higher taxi speed. With a slight twist the 787 taxied as it should. Hope this helps someone. 

I believe the taxi difficultly people are experiencing is due to a configuration setting that reduces the sensitivity with ground speed, which IIRC is set unusually low. Its easy to exceed the speed due to the size of the aircraft, then find you can't do those tight turns. So, slow down!

On 2/11/2021 at 8:56 AM, odourboy said:

I believe the taxi difficultly people are experiencing is due to a configuration setting that reduces the sensitivity with ground speed, which IIRC is set unusually low. Its easy to exceed the speed due to the size of the aircraft, then find you can't do those tight turns. So, slow down!

Yes, my experience with both the 787 and 747 is to go a little faster on the straights, but then slow down as much as possible to take the turns.

On 2/11/2021 at 8:56 AM, odourboy said:

I believe the taxi difficultly people are experiencing is due to a configuration setting that reduces the sensitivity with ground speed, which IIRC is set unusually low. Its easy to exceed the speed due to the size of the aircraft, then find you can't do those tight turns. So, slow down!

Yup. Also in external view you can see what the wheel is doing versus what the aircraft is doing. At low speeds the aircraft pretty much follows the nose-wheel as expected. Over about 12-15 knots you start to see some wheel slip, and anything above that you can pretty much fully deflect the nose-wheel and watch the skidding start.

Honestly once MSFS gets effects implemented (wheel smoke) you should be able to see when you're skidding the nose-wheel.

4 hours ago, WestAir said:

At low speeds the aircraft pretty much follows the nose-wheel as expected. Over about 12-15 knots you start to see some wheel slip, and anything above that you can pretty much fully deflect the nose-wheel and watch the skidding start.
 

Ok, but is this true-to-life behavior? Obviously you expect to skid as speed increases, but starting to lose authority as low as 12 knots seems way over the top to me.

James

2 hours ago, honanhal said:

Ok, but is this true-to-life behavior?

The real aircraft , like most large aircraft should be taxied around corners at 10kts or less ideally , I wouldn’t expect to lose the nose wheel authority at 12kts on a dry surface, a wet surface 90 degree turn at 12kts-15kts ...possibly. The 787 nose wheel steering is electric fly by wire and is quite sensitive with little feedback so needs a smooth input. I don’t think there’s been any attempt to simulate this , the sim is just taxiing in the generic way it’s been programmed.

The external model of the 78 looks truly stunning, but regrettably inside either half the features are labelled as inop or those that “work” are frustratingly  unrealistic in their behaviour.

It may well be an acceptable fun aircraft to mess about with but as for being in any way realistic I’m afraid it falls well short. Although as a default aircraft I’m sure that accurate realism  was never its remit.

Multi platform simmers after a more authentic 787 experience should look to the quality wings version on P3D which is also in development for MSFS. There’s also the flight factors version for X-plane which is in development and shows great potential. There’s some speculation that PMDG May be planning a 787 as their next product, if that were true  I for one would be very happy.