March 6, 20215 yr I got to thinking today about how much good scenery, both freeware and payware, is already out there for major international airports in MSFS. I figured it would be years (and hundreds or even thousands of dollars) before I'd be able to fill out MSFS the way my FSX/P3D were filled out with at-least-passable-quality airports around the world. But actually, I made a list of the "must-have" major airports that don't have any at-least solid scenery available, and it's only 24 airports long. Kind of incredible how much is already "good enough"! (Of course, what's actually still missing is good long-haul aircraft to fly between these, but I'm sure that'll come...) Africa FAOR - Johannesburg HAAB - Addis Ababa Asia RPLL - Manila RTCP - Taipei VABB - Mumbai VHHH - Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok VVTS - Tan Son Nhat Ho Chi Minh WIII - Jakarta WMKK - Kuala Lumpur ZBAA - Beijing Capital ZSPD - Shanghai Pudong Europe ESSA - Stockholm LIRF - Rome Fiumicino North America CYYZ - Toronto KBOS - Boston KDCA - DC National KPHX - Phoenix KSAN - San Diego MMMX - Mexico City PANC - Anchorage Oceania YMML - Melbourne South America SBGR - Sao Paulo Guarulhos SCEL - Santiago SKBO - Bogota Am I missing any? Or do any of these have good-enough scenery available that I haven't seen? James
March 6, 20215 yr I flew to some airport in the list. They do exists by default and certainly not missing. There also KSAN for MSFS already https://secure.simmarket.com/latinvfr-san-diego-intl-ksan-msfs.phtml Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
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March 6, 20215 yr Author 26 minutes ago, sd_flyer said: I flew to some airport in the list. They do exists by default and certainly not missing. There also KSAN for MSFS already https://secure.simmarket.com/latinvfr-san-diego-intl-ksan-msfs.phtml Sorry, should have been clearer: these airports aren't missing, in the sense that they're present in the sim. But they're default, which -- while usable -- is never going to hold a candle to something crafted by hand. Hadn't seen that there was a KSAN already. Thanks!
March 6, 20215 yr There's very few decent enhanced airports for Africa. Most of them have a serviceable MSFS one by default in that it has a usable runway and nav aids, but given that many of these airports retain quite a lot of older architecture as well as sometimes also having modern terminals too, they'd be a rich source for airport modelers who'd like to make something with a bit more character instead of always going for something with an ICAO prefix which begins with a K or an E. Edited March 6, 20215 yr by Chock Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
March 6, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, honanhal said: LIRF - Rome Fiumicino Italy - LIRF: aeroporto Leonardo da Vinci, Fiumicino, RM • Microsoft Flight Simulator 1 hour ago, honanhal said: ESSA - Stockholm ESSA Stockholm Arlanda • Microsoft Flight Simulator 1 hour ago, honanhal said: PANC - Anchorage Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport, Anchorage AK USA - PANC V1.2 • Microsoft Flight Simulator Not for me to say if these meet your needs, but they are all freeware and worth a look. OS: Win11 Home; Mobo: Asus TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4; CPU: Intel i5-12400 (Alder Lake) 4.4 GHzRAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR4 64Gb (4x16GB) 3600 MHz; GPU: MSI Radeon RX 5700XT [8GB] SSD: Corsair Force MP510 (for OS); 2x 1TB & 1x 2TB Sabrent Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 (one for sim, two for addons)HDD: Seagate 3TB (Data); Seagate 1TB (Programs), ASUS TUF Gaming VG32VQ1B Curved 31.5" monitor, 1440p, 38Mbs ethernet Fulcrum One Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo throttle, Thrustmaster Airbus TCA sidestick & throttle, Logitech Pro pedals, Xbox wireless gamepad (1st gen)
March 6, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, honanhal said: I got to thinking today about how much good scenery, both freeware and payware, is already out there for major international airports in MSFS. I figured it would be years (and hundreds or even thousands of dollars) before I'd be able to fill out MSFS the way my FSX/P3D were filled out with at-least-passable-quality airports around the world. But actually, I made a list of the "must-have" major airports that don't have any at-least solid scenery available, and it's only 24 airports long. Kind of incredible how much is already "good enough"! (Of course, what's actually still missing is good long-haul aircraft to fly between these, but I'm sure that'll come...) Africa FAOR - Johannesburg HAAB - Addis Ababa Asia RPLL - Manila RTCP - Taipei VABB - Mumbai VHHH - Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok VVTS - Tan Son Nhat Ho Chi Minh WIII - Jakarta WMKK - Kuala Lumpur ZBAA - Beijing Capital ZSPD - Shanghai Pudong Europe ESSA - Stockholm LIRF - Rome Fiumicino North America CYYZ - Toronto KBOS - Boston KDCA - DC National KPHX - Phoenix KSAN - San Diego MMMX - Mexico City PANC - Anchorage Oceania YMML - Melbourne South America SBGR - Sao Paulo Guarulhos SCEL - Santiago SKBO - Bogota Am I missing any? Or do any of these have good-enough scenery available that I haven't seen? James You missed MPTO (Tocumen International Airport) in Panama City, and home of COPA Airlines, which happens to be the most important airport in all of Central America, and Asobo completely failed to include it in the sim - not even a garbage version was included - it's missing completely. Sincerely, Dennis D. Müllert System Specs: MoBo: MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi ATX AM5. CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D. Memory: 128GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5600 CL-40. GPU: 24GB Asus TUF Gaming OC GeForce RTX 4090. Monitor: LG UltraGear+ 45" curved OLED. Power Supply: Corsair 1500 Watt 80+ Platinum ATX. HD: 2TB Sabrent Rocket NVME SSD. Windows 11 Pro. Flight Sim Hardware: Joystick: Thrustmaster T16000M. Rudder Pedals: Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Pedals. Yoke: Honeycomb Alpha. Throttles: Honeycomb Bravo. Controller: XBox Controller
March 6, 20215 yr 34 minutes ago, DMullert said: You missed MPTO (Tocumen International Airport) in Panama City, and home of COPA Airlines, which happens to be the most important airport in all of Central America, and Asobo completely failed to include it in the sim - not even a garbage version was included - it's missing completely. There is a serviceable freeware version of the airport on flightsim.to https://flightsim.to/file/5409/tocumen-international-airport-mpto 5800X3D | Radeon RX 6900XT
March 7, 20215 yr Author 18 hours ago, Chock said: There's very few decent enhanced airports for Africa. Most of them have a serviceable MSFS one by default in that it has a usable runway and nav aids, but given that many of these airports retain quite a lot of older architecture as well as sometimes also having modern terminals too, they'd be a rich source for airport modelers who'd like to make something with a bit more character instead of always going for something with an ICAO prefix which begins with a K or an E. I see that FSXScenery on simmarket is making airports for MSFS now and has covered a number of African airports. The quality has gotten to be kind of ok in the past few years, and the price (roughly $11 each) is such that it’s not totally unreasonable. At some point I may break down and spring for a few, but for now it’s hard to justify that money (even for something unique) when the same amount can get you something super high quality from a top-tier developer... James
March 7, 20215 yr I’m surprised FAOR Johannesburg has not been done yet. Nothing on payware or freeware, except a night lighting mod for the aprons. It’s only the largest and busiest airport on the entire African continent, yet is a bland basic shell in the sim. GregH Intel Core i7 14700K / Palit RTX4070Ti Super OC / Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 MHz / MSI Z790 M/board / Corsair NVMe 9500 read, 8500 write / Corsair PSU1200W / CH Products Yoke, Pedals & Quad; Airbus Side Stick, Airbus Quadrant / TrackIR, 32” 4K 144hz 1ms Monitor
March 7, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, RaptyrOne said: I’m surprised FAOR Johannesburg has not been done yet. Nothing on payware or freeware, except a night lighting mod for the aprons. It’s only the largest and busiest airport on the entire African continent, yet is a bland basic shell in the sim. No airside access permitted to the high quality developers. In the past, that's caused a couple of attempts to recreate FAOR to be abandoned. FSDG has a few airports in Africa for MSFS, namely: Agadir, Nairobi, Walvis Bay and Windhoek. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
March 7, 20215 yr 13 minutes ago, honanhal said: I see that FSXScenery on simmarket is making airports for MSFS now and has covered a number of African airports. To me these look like port overs from FSX and fall short of MSFS graphical standards and my personal expectations. There are however decent South Africa payware sceneries for FALA (Lanseria), FALE (Durban), FAPE (Port Elizabeth) and good freeware for FAGG (George) and FAEL) East London. The Asobo FACT (Cape Town) is very impressive. GregH Intel Core i7 14700K / Palit RTX4070Ti Super OC / Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 MHz / MSI Z790 M/board / Corsair NVMe 9500 read, 8500 write / Corsair PSU1200W / CH Products Yoke, Pedals & Quad; Airbus Side Stick, Airbus Quadrant / TrackIR, 32” 4K 144hz 1ms Monitor
March 7, 20215 yr 25 minutes ago, F737NG said: No airside access permitted to the high quality developers. In the past, that's caused a couple of attempts to recreate FAOR to be abandoned. FSDG has a few airports in Africa for MSFS, namely: Agadir, Nairobi, Walvis Bay and Windhoek ASDG has previously shown (Facebook I think), a very good, extremely detailed model of FAOR in development. So they have some decent modelling, just can’t seem to finish what they start. I used to have airside access to FAOR and what they had done was spot on. So they cannot use that as an excuse. FAOR’s airside access restrictions are no different to any other international airport. Edited March 7, 20215 yr by RaptyrOne GregH Intel Core i7 14700K / Palit RTX4070Ti Super OC / Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 MHz / MSI Z790 M/board / Corsair NVMe 9500 read, 8500 write / Corsair PSU1200W / CH Products Yoke, Pedals & Quad; Airbus Side Stick, Airbus Quadrant / TrackIR, 32” 4K 144hz 1ms Monitor
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