Hey folks, since summer i have not been able to fly in sim. Since then some new aircrafts came out and existing ones got updates. 

Could you all list which aircraft are most realistic and close to study level? 

or maybe some are on the horizon to be released soon? 

WT CJ-4, FBW 320, JF Arrow, ATS Piaggio, Aerosoft CRJ I think

Not released yet, but it'll be this:

 

JF Arrow 3

I can only imagine what a DC-3 would look like in MSFS. How many would ever know how to operate it.

Just now, fogboundturtle said:

I can only imagine what a DC-3 would look like in MSFS. How many would ever know how to operate it.

Aeroplane Heaven one is coming, but apparently PMDG are threatening to do one (again). There's a Boeing 247 on the way as well and with a bit of luck Carenado will shove their Beech 18 into MSFS too.

Edited March 22, 20215 yr by Chock

I wish people would stop with the misleading thread titles....

Here I thought someone actually went to the trouble of putting a list together, which wouldn't be much trouble to begin with because the list is so short. 

10 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

I wish people would stop with the misleading thread titles....

Here I thought someone actually went to the trouble of putting a list together, which wouldn't be much trouble to begin with because the list is so short. 

What's miss leading about the title??

29 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

I wish people would stop with the misleading thread titles....

Here I thought someone actually went to the trouble of putting a list together, which wouldn't be much trouble to begin with because the list is so short. 

So instead of posting this you could have made it? 😉

24 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

What's miss leading about the title??

It could have probably done with a question mark to indicate it was an enquiry, and if we're being really grammatically picky, the plural of aircraft, is aircraft. 🤣

"Study level" is a useless benchmark, as its meaning varies from person to person.   I think rather than asking which aircraft are "study level", any particular user is more likely to find satisfaction if they identify what criteria are important to them, rather than assuming there's some definite magic line you cross to get a Congratulations, You Are Study Level! gold star and that everyone knows what that means.

If your definition of "study level" includes having a complete A2A-style physics simulation of things like hydraulic pressure and electrical loads, I think this is a full list of the planes that will give you that currently:

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(Not an error.)

I haven't flown the CRJ myself, but I don't think even it meets that criterion.

If you're looking for a tubeliner that can let you sit back and watch the computer follow a magenta line with reasonable accuracy, the CRJ would probably do you good there, although it is not perfect.   The CJ4 with the Working Title mod would be a good alternative if you want something smaller.  We probably have the most comprehensive PL21 sim on the market except for the one by MilViz, and that's not available for MSFS yet.

If by "study level" you want a plane that has most of the normal checklists implemented which flies something close to the real thing, you have a lot more choices there.   There are a lot of community mods to the stock planes that have done great things with them.  The CJ4 and TBM are probably top of class there for the larger planes;  for small stuff the C152, the Diamonds, and the G36 are amongst those that have fairly well regarded mods for them.

Commercially I think you'll find the Just Flight Arrow is probably the best SEP available at the moment, though I'm sure folks will disagree.  More folks than not have said the FM is pretty good, it has a couple different avionics systems you can play with, and a little bit of systems persistence for fun. Surprisingly, in spite of the creator, the Carenado M20R is also quite good.

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I could go on, but I'm sure others can provide more suggestions once you share more details on what you're interested in.

Edited March 22, 20215 yr by kaosfere

Just now, kaosfere said:

"Study level" is a useless benchmark, as its meaning varies from person to person. 

 

 

 

 

Here is my take on "study level".  "Study level" is aircraft which force you to read manual;otherwise, after first fly or you crash and die LOL

When I was a student pilot flying a C 152 , I thought that it was a "study Level" aircraft. I read that owners manual at least 10 times, to make sure I didn't miss a thing. 😉 I talked to mechanics at the FBO, and even went into the shop and watched them change a jug in the engine. 

8 minutes ago, kaosfere said:

"Study level" is a useless benchmark, as its meaning varies from person to person.   I think rather than asking which aircraft are "study level", any particular user is more likely to find satisfaction if they identify what criteria are important to them, rather than assuming there's some definite magic line you cross to get a Congratulations, You Are Study Level! gold star and that everyone knows what that means.

If your definition of "study level" includes having a complete A2A-style physics simulation of things like hydraulic pressure and electrical loads, I think this is a full list of the planes that will give you that currently:

1.  

 

(Not an error.)

I haven't flown the CRJ myself, but I don't think even it meets that criterion.

If you're looking for a tubeliner that can let you sit back and watch the computer follow a magenta line with reasonable accuracy, the CRJ would probably do you good there, although it is not perfect.   The CJ4 with the Working Title mod would be a good alternative if you want something smaller.  We probably have the most comprehensive PL21 sim on the market except for the one by MilViz, and that's not available for MSFS yet.

If by "study level" you want a plane that has most of the normal checklists implemented which flies something close to the real thing, you have a lot more choices there.   There are a lot of community mods to the stock planes that have done great things with them.  The CJ4 and TBM are probably top of class there for the larger planes;  for small stuff the C152, the Diamonds, and the G36 are amongst those that have fairly well regarded mods for them.

Commercially I think you'll find the Just Flight Arrow is probably the best SEP available at the moment, though I'm sure folks will disagree.  More folks than not have said the FM is pretty good, it has a couple different avionics systems you can play with, and a little bit of systems persistence for fun. Surprisingly, in spite of the creator, the Carenado M20R is also quite good.

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I could go on, but I'm sure others can provide more suggestions once you share more details on what you're interested in.

As a Private Pilot my two favorite are the Mooney and the JF Arrow, although since I got the Arrow, that is all I have been flying. 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

JF Arrow 3

as Kaosfere pointed out, study-level is not a well-defined notion. However, if I compare the JF Arrow to P3D airplanes by A2A or Milviz, it falls far short of those airplanes. I t takes a while to learn how to keep the engine healthy in those planes. In the JF Arrow, I can keep rpm permanently in the red without any consequences; I can fly 700nm (the maximum distance the real plane covers) and still have about 25-30% of fuel left. I can start the engines under almost any conditions (hot, cold, ..) as long as I remember to select a fuel tank.

The JF Arrow is a nice plane, probably the best out there for MSFS (I don't know the CRJ). But it is still not extremely realistic.

Peter