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34 minutes ago, mikeymike said:

I’ll have to agree with you ray. The monitor is wayyyyyy better by miles.

from clouds to sky textures etc looks amazing. 
I was tinkering  with my ncp settings and it’s looking quite nice now.

just trying to figure what setting to use in regards to frame rate lock for 144hz  instead of 60hz at 30 locked.

That’s why monitors cost far more than TVs for certain sizes. 😉

That’s a tricky one. If 144Hz is the lowest it can go I really don’t know what to recommend. I’m guessing 1/4 isn’t available via RTSS which would give you 36.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Kevin, I don’t use flight sim to judge the quality of the display. I use Windows Explorer and how well it displays text. My Sony 32” FullHD TV that cost around 390GBP back in 2013 was a quality TV but it struggled to display text clearly. Monitors are far better in that respect.

How is your HiSense?

Obviously it's all subjective to one's own eye, but I use it as an extended display for my work laptop as well as my primary flight sim display, and I can't fault the clarity. I often have 10 A4 pages of documents displayed concurrently so have to avoid scrolling through pages and I can read them all perfectly ok. 🙂

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34 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

That’s why monitors cost far more than TVs for certain sizes. 😉

That’s a tricky one. If 144Hz is the lowest it can go I really don’t know what to recommend. I’m guessing 1/4 isn’t available via RTSS which would give you 36.

Not a problem for me, just set at 30 or 50hz refresh in Nvidia control centre, with vsync on, and the display and sim just work 😉

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6 minutes ago, kevinfirth said:

Obviously it's all subjective to one's own eye, but I use it as an extended display for my work laptop as well as my primary flight sim display, and I can't fault the clarity. I often have 10 A4 pages of documents displayed concurrently so have to avoid scrolling through pages and I can read them all perfectly ok. 🙂

The size will be hugely attractive. It sounds you can live with the TV just fine but I did find the lack of clarity with text irritating.

4 minutes ago, kevinfirth said:

Not a problem for me, just set at 30 or 50hz refresh in Nvidia control centre, with vsync on, and the display and sim just work 😉

That’s the beauty of TVs. Low refresh rates. 👍

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

That’s why monitors cost far more than TVs for certain sizes. 😉

That’s a tricky one. If 144Hz is the lowest it can go I really don’t know what to recommend. I’m guessing 1/4 isn’t available via RTSS which would give you 36.

Thanks ray I’ll try 36  fps locked  no rtss with vsync and triple buffer off. See how it pans out.

thanks 

mike

2 hours ago, mikeymike said:

What if I wanted my monitor at 144hz using P3d v5.1 hf1 do I just set it at 30fps or 40 perhaps?

thanks

mike

P3DV5 is different, the internal FPS limiter does not work as well in my experience, so yes, an external fps limiter makes sense there.   I use RTSS for P3D and the internal setting for MSFS.

Bert

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2 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

P3DV5 is different, the internal FPS limiter does not work as well in my experience, so yes, an external fps limiter makes sense there.   I use RTSS for P3D and the internal setting for MSFS.

So could I use the ncp to limit fps? 
Would i  enable gsync  in ncp?

the monitor does come with 60 120 and 144 hz

or should I set monitor at 60 hz and use rtss ?

cheers 

mike

 

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50 minutes ago, mikeymike said:

the monitor does come with 60 120 and 144 hz

or should I set monitor at 60 hz and use rtss ?

Do what you said in the second sentence. Half refresh rate in RTSS should be good.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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6 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

The size will be hugely attractive. It sounds you can live with the TV just fine but I did find the lack of clarity with text irritating.

I do wonder if you had some unintended image processing going on in the TV.  I use a 55" Samsung with a designated computer display mode, which disables things like sharpening and up-scaling that the TV otherwise does for a TV image.  If you don't use that mode, the text is a bit fuzzy, but in monitor mode it's really very clear even when viewed as i do from 3 ft.

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34 minutes ago, w6kd said:

I do wonder if you had some unintended image processing going on in the TV.  I use a 55" Samsung with a designated computer display mode, which disables things like sharpening and up-scaling that the TV otherwise does for a TV image.  If you don't use that mode, the text is a bit fuzzy, but in monitor mode it's really very clear even when viewed as i do from 3 ft.

Bob, it was a modest FullHD TV without chroma 4:4:4 which is essential for clear text. I looked through the menu system and disabled all the enhancements available.

I suspect your Samsung has chroma 4:4:4.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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I have a 48" LG CX OLED 4K@120Hz and a 49" Samsung UW 1440p@100Hz and, for simulation, the OLED TV has the best results. On MSFS I can reach (and, most of the time, maintain) 60fps@4K and on DCS up to 120fps@4K. Limiting yourself to a 30Hz/60Hz panel is not something I would recommend in 2021.

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I have a 49" LG 4K Tv as a monitor...with a 2080ti..

 

My image is wonderfull...But considering going up to 55" LG OLED ..

 

Why are we never happy?  😉

5 hours ago, GCBraun said:

I have a 48" LG CX OLED 4K@120Hz and a 49" Samsung UW 1440p@100Hz and, for simulation, the OLED TV has the best results. On MSFS I can reach (and, most of the time, maintain) 60fps@4K and on DCS up to 120fps@4K. Limiting yourself to a 30Hz/60Hz panel is not something I would recommend in 2021.

To each his own. When you say most of the time you maintain your intended frame rate of 60 that suggests you sometimes suffer from stutters. I would find that unacceptable 

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8 minutes ago, micstatic said:

To each his own. When you say most of the time you maintain your intended frame rate of 60 that suggests you sometimes suffer from stutters. I would find that unacceptable 

Stutters are unavoidable in flight-sims, sorry. If you find them unacceptable, you should play Fortnite or CS:GO. In my case, they are related mostly to scenery loading and have nothing to do with GPU/CPU overload.

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1 minute ago, GCBraun said:

Stutters are unavoidable in flight-sims, sorry. If you find them unacceptable, you should play Fortnite or CS:GO. In my case, they are related mostly to scenery loading and have nothing to do with GPU/CPU overload.

I’ve learned over the years how to almost entirely eliminate them. Frame rate locking is a huge way to do it. Plenty of resources here to help you do the same 

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