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Looking forward to the 'buses in general, particularly PMDG. I'm a bit concerned about the qualty of some so hopefully someone will try a few things for me when they buy it. I suppose all of them will be a step beyond what we have had before but few will reach PMDG/Level D standard.What I do to get a feel for how good it is going to be is look at the gestation period. Take a look at how long PMDG/Level D take from announcement to delivery for there products and then compare it. You should get a very rough idea of how good it will be. For an Airbus add 30%. :-)

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Looks interesting. Think I'll wait for some early purchase reports though.

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Actually Howard, the time from announcement to delivery is only long because almost none of the developers do this fulltime. I know that none of the PSS, LevelD or PMDG crews are fulltime FS developers. The time to get the product out the door is predicated on how much spare time they have. It should be obvious that if they were taking 2 years per aircraft and working at it fulltime, they'd die of starvation and development would have to stop for lack of electrictity or a place to live long before the aircraft is released.Building a complex aircraft from start to finish, fulltime, is not even 5 months. A complex 3d visual model can be done in a few weeks and complex panel in a couple of months. This is with a team pounding out the code, fulltime. So, the perceived time to *code* the aircraft cannot be used as even a cursorary indicator of its quality in the least. EDIT: As for the A320 series, I plan to have it on day one. Now I gotta go find a good joystick replacement for my AETI yoke.

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That is so true. But then you have to ask yourself is it worth waiting until perhaps mid 2008 for their Airbus? That gives you maybe a year and a half of use before the next version of FS comes out.

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Mike, Your right to a large degree of course. I was thinking about that when posting. Some are created with full time working and this does shorten the time. However, doing the research, completely undertanding the aircraft and then doing endless beta iterations to get it almost perfect still take a lot of hours on top of the build phase. For me, I'll give it a year full time two years part time;-)

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I'm as excited as Pat, I will get it when it is released and will report back.Jeff

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Given the people behind Airliner-XP and the unique RXP technologies used, I guess this bird will outperform Wilco/FeelThere's by far (and set a landmark for PMDG and others - but let's see).FeelThere's products are good, but they lack the professional and "finished" touch of the ones from developers like PMDG or LDS for instance. A big disappointment for me is always the manuals which are almost non-existant...Airbus planes add another level of complexity, and looking at FeelThere's history, they often needed more than one or two service pack to get rid of the most annoying bugs.So, I'm excited about the product release as well, but I heavily doubt the bird will be really enjoyable during the first 3-6 months...Andreas

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>Given the people behind Airliner-XP and the unique RXP>technologies used, I guess this bird will outperform>Wilco/FeelThere's by far (and set a landmark for PMDG and>others - but let's see).>>FeelThere's products are good, but they lack the professional>and "finished" touch of the ones from developers like PMDG or>LDS for instance. A big disappointment for me is always the>manuals which are almost non-existant...>>Airbus planes add another level of complexity, and looking at>FeelThere's history, they often needed more than one or two>service pack to get rid of the most annoying bugs.>>So, I'm excited about the product release as well, but I>heavily doubt the bird will be really enjoyable during the>first 3-6 months...Andreas I definately have to agree with you here. I'm not a fan of the Wilco/Feelthere process.... their planes never work out of the gate. Not only that but they often have pretty horrendous framerates. I'm looking forward to seeing this Airbus from Airliner-XP... I have a feeling that it's not going to *raise* the bar... it's going to absolutely annihilate what we perceive as the current bar.

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Well this is certainly going to get very very interesting with all these "buses" (airbus) being releasedhere they are:1. AirSimmer bus package looks really goodhttp://www.airsimmer.com2. Things To Come outfit making a bus as well and based on their little preview movie it looks greathttp://www.things-to-come.com/a320/3. Wilco/Feelthere with the release of their buses- although they have been slipping recently and their products have tons of bugs initially with non-existent support from Wilcohttp://www.wilcopub.com4. PMDG will certainly be a great bus product but not in the near future, probably in 2008 if not laterhttp://precisionmanuals.com5. Airliner XP - airbus 3 years in development it better be good!http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=20170http://www.airliner-xp.com/a320features.htmlAm I missing anybody else?please add to the listBo

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>so which one will you choose?I would take the PMDG, no doubt even with the very little we know about it so far.But it will be quite some time before we see it so for now I am waiting for reviews and feedback on the others.

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I have to say I've always enjoyed PMDG's products, however the AirlinerXP offering, on paper, looks pretty darn good.Hopefully they all release around the same time - I'm not buying anything until the ones I am most interested in hit the market, and I'm going to let some other folks do the "research" for me.One interesting note is that the AirlinerXP version will be released for FS9 and FSX, but whether or not you'll get license to both for one price is in question, though. Some of the other offerings are FSX only, which to some could be a limiting factor.Either way, let the excitement build as developers start bringing goods to market for FSX!-Greg

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Well the Manual download is also available from there homepage. It looks ok. I'm so afraid of disapontment with their reputation. BUT from manual buses shure feels OK. As Im desperatly flying PSS airbus in FSX because I simply cant stand those default planes I decided to give myself 5 minutes to be stoped from higher force to start downloading it. :) I mean, it cant be worse than pss (all the best about pss airbus for that time).So until AirlinerXP is relesed this couldnt be such a big mistake. right?OK my 5 minutes has passed. Will post impresions.

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>Well the Manual download is also available from there>homepage. It looks ok. I'm so afraid of disapontment with>their reputation. BUT from manual buses shure feels OK. As Im>desperatly flying PSS airbus in FSX because I simply cant>stand those default planes I decided to give myself 5 minutes>to be stoped from higher force to start downloading it. :) >I mean, it cant be worse than pss (all the best about pss>airbus for that time).>So until AirlinerXP is relesed this couldnt be such a big>mistake. right?>OK my 5 minutes has passed. Will post impresions.please tell me what do you think so far of Wilco airbus?Bo

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I have to say that at least they gave us a decent manual this time. Will finish reading it and make my decision...so far it sounds very interesting.

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What I am actually REALLY curious about is the framerate hit.I can live with a few bugs here and there. FeelThere has always been good and responsive in ironing everything out, but I am very concerned that my FSX will grind to a halt on my machine.Any experiencs would be appreciated.

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The Airbus is out and, bang, Wilco's site went down with a few users trying to download at 3kb/sec. Some things just never change.I just feel bad for FeelThere. Why-oh-why don't they go with Flight1?Pat

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>The Airbus is out and, bang, Wilco's site went down with a>few users trying to download at 3kb/sec. Some things just>never change.>>I just feel bad for FeelThere. Why-oh-why don't they go with>Flight1?>>PatI agree with you 100%, they should have gone with Flight1 wrapper - I have mentioned this to them in the pastoh well, less people will buy it

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