19 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

This wording is similar to the email that Austin Meyer published suggesting MS / Asobo were copying XPlane’s BET.

Not that I want to plant any seeds of suspicion in anyone’s mind or anything…

What is BET?

5 minutes ago, BIGSKY said:

What is BET?

Blade element theory

21 hours ago, johnnycaptain said:

I agree that's its too early to make that statement as it isn't even out yet, but to be fair, from the blog posts and 7 videos that shows this aircraft and its capabilities, I have seen multiple things that not even the FSLabs (which I consider the gold standard) Case in point is actual functioning circuit breakers, 280 of them, while the FSLabs has none. Despite this I'm not making any statements until I get the product in hand though.

I'm as excited as anyone to see a new producer getting ready to release an add-on of this calibre, especially for a brand new platform such as MSFS. Don't get me wrong.

FSL have 5 variants and 2 engine choices while working on the Neo (I think?). Granted they've been working on their versions a lot longer and for an established P3D platform so they have the advantage there.

As for the circuit breakers, yes, amazing detail, but how often do we, as sim pilots, pull breakers at all? Neither do real-life pilots for that matter. But, it does speak volumes for the simulation depth of the Fenix offering and I can't wait to get my hands on it. Just waiting for the stratospheric hardware prices to drop a bit so that I can build a new machine that can handle all the new offerings.

1 hour ago, Aamir said:

Hi.

I own the company. You're welcome to have a look at our companies house information (all company information in the United Kingdom is public and free to view, we're registered as FenixSim Ltd.) - and I've never had anything to do with FlightFactor, unequivocally. 

The fact this is your one, and only, post on AVSIM leads me to believe we've done a decent job with our marketing and some of our competitors are perhaps a little worried 😉

Have a lovely evening!

The sincerest form of flattery when it comes from the competition. 

Now get off of the forum and finish the bloody thing already. My money is burning up the bank's vault. Take it! 😀

2 hours ago, speedyTC said:

I'm as excited as anyone to see a new producer getting ready to release an add-on of this calibre, especially for a brand new platform such as MSFS. Don't get me wrong.

FSL have 5 variants and 2 engine choices while working on the Neo (I think?). Granted they've been working on their versions a lot longer and for an established P3D platform so they have the advantage there.

As for the circuit breakers, yes, amazing detail, but how often do we, as sim pilots, pull breakers at all? Neither do real-life pilots for that matter. But, it does speak volumes for the simulation depth of the Fenix offering and I can't wait to get my hands on it. 

Absolutely. As you say, the crew on the flight deck don't often pull circuit breakers, usually it's the engineers who do that, or if there is an in-flight issue, the crew might, on the instructions of flight engineers, be advised to pull or reset some of them. This isn't always because the crew don't know how to do stuff; often it is because it's not their job to do it and the responsibility, in company operating procedure terms, lies with the staff whose remit it is to work on those things, as is very often the case with all kinds of stuff in aviation and indeed in many other industries too. I am sure many people on Avsim build their own PCs and probably know more about that than their IT department staff at their works, but they still have to get their IT department to do stuff on the works computers in spite of knowing how to do what is required to sort things out if there is an issue, which is a similar kind of thing.

But be that as it may, for anyone wishing to simulate flight crew operations, if circuit breakers or the wiring behind them is realistically simulated, this means two things: If you happen to work on the real things as well as messing about with flight sims, you can use this for a bit more training and familiarisation for your real work, or if you happen to only use the aeroplane for simulated stuff, you will be using something which, by virtue of being realistically simulated in terms of wiring and plumbing, will react more like the real thing, which is something Fenix alluded to on their promotional videos.

This was/is something which sets a few add-on aeroplanes apart, among them the Majestic Dash 8 Q400 for FSX/P3D, which in its full-on versions allows engineers to use it to check 'under the hood' functions of the FMC, pop circuit breakers and all kinds of stuff. In the case of the FSL A320, whilst it's true that does not have functioning circuit breakers, what it does do, is realistically simulate the electrical wiring layout and the behaviour of hydraulic fluids, fuel and lubricants in a manner similar to what Fenix appear to be doing with their A320. What this means is that the loads on the system are accurately simulated and things will only work as they should if the correct switches are flipped, but not as a 'canned' procedure, rather as an accurate representation of the real thing. So if as it would appear, the Fenix A320 does this, and has working circuit breakers, the underlying systems these control would have to be accurately replicated in order to function properly.

This should mean we'll get the transfer pump dog barking sound, the doors not being able to be opened under power if the FEP or similar isn't on and the correct bus is selected, the ailerons and elevators drooping when it is on stand and so on, and all this as functions of the way things are simulated, rather than as canned features. It has the potential to be a very immersive experience which is a lot more like the real aeroplane.

Edited July 27, 20214 yr by Chock

See this is the type of stuff that will make you leave your wife and kids goodbye and tell the judge to kiss my word not allowed.

Read the reports on this,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia_AirAsia_Flight_8501

to see what happens when flight crews start pulling the wrong breakers.

 

Some claim MSFS is too unrealistic, and some claim the Fenix is too realistic. I like to think neither is true.

Edited July 27, 20214 yr by WestAir

13 hours ago, dmitryc said:

privet,

just a word of caution. I know from reliable source that the developer behind this aircraft is the same person that developed the FlightFactor A320U for X-Plane 11. Back then, also alot of grand things were promised and it was claimed by him and FlightFactor that it would be better than the FSLabs A320 and all kinds of promises were made. In the end it was so nowhere near as advanced as the FSLabs A320 and development came to a halt as soon as the wave of initial sales after its release was over. Now years later, angry customers are left with an unfinished product and missing features that were promised by the developer. so please don't just believe everything that is claimed, don't buy when this comes out but wait to see if it really lives up to all the promises that are being made.

 

This is your first post in AVSIM with your account and Aamir has already countered you and said your rumor is false.  I hope the mods or admins keep track of dmitryc.  This is a very suspicious post.

What I don't get is what is one supposed to do when a malfunction pops up.We won't have a quick reference  book like the pilots would have what would be the work around if we get in trouble.

Edited July 27, 20214 yr by Bigsby

50 minutes ago, Bigsby said:

What I don't get is what is one supposed to do when a malfunction pops up.We won't have a quick reference  book like the pilots would have what would be the work around if we get in trouble.

Why not a320 QRH is literally the first result on google then. Besides the ECAM should tell you most of the things to do.

If Fenix doesn't provide an FCOM pfd with your purchase, perhaps some precision manual development group will provide us with manuals at a reasonable cost. 🤣

Edited July 27, 20214 yr by WestAir

6 hours ago, Bigsby said:

What I don't get is what is one supposed to do when a malfunction pops up.We won't have a quick reference  book like the pilots would have what would be the work around if we get in trouble.

True, but then again we don't actually need a quick reference book, as you do in the real thing. Trust me, I've looked around the real cockpit of the A320 many times, and I can assure everyone there is no pause button and no internet browser on the default Google search page to be found on any of those panels in the real A320 hidden amongst all the other switches, so unlike the pilots of the real thing, in a flight sim we can hit pause and do a search for stuff on the Smart Cockpit website or somewhere similar. 😉

To be fair, real QRH and FCOMs for these airplanes are incredibly easy to find - you can quite comfortably use the real docs on this thing. We can't distribute any of this stuff ourselves due to our licensing agreement with Airbus 🙂

7 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

This is your first post in AVSIM with your account and Aamir has already countered you and said your rumor is false.  I hope the mods or admins keep track of dmitryc.  This is a very suspicious post.

As with any other addons, there is always the same simple solution. One, is to set your expectation accordingly and two, you don't need to jump on this on day 1. Wait for reviews of known simmers and make a decision if its worth your time and money. Easy.   

If you cant hold yourself and must buy blind on day 1 then its your problem. 

BTW, this is goes more to @dmitryc