9 hours ago, ca_metal said:

Well, Asobo needs to implement the changes eventually, so they should give the 3rd party devs some sort of a deadline. 

At the very least they should enforce it for products in the marketplace.

3 hours ago, WestAir said:

Yeah I did that, which stopped the blue glow and I also got rid of the big in your face UI text popups. The only issue left between SU4 and SU5 for me in this regard is that panning comes to a halt as the mouse passes over a switch or button.

What are you using to pan? I can use my right stick on my Xbox controller to pan around freely, same if I just press the mouse wheel and just move it around freely. I can also press and hold the right mouse button to pan around also. Never had it halt over a button or switch 

2 minutes ago, orchestra_nl said:

At the very least they should enforce it for products in the marketplace.

Correction : if this was so important they should have enforced it for products in the market place to begin with.🤣

 

1 hour ago, Dominique_K said:

My understanding is the ‘revert’ thing is not in the hot fix but already was in SU5 as released.

Concerning the hot fix, nothing on the big washout of colors and nothing about the absurd lightning galore.

A good question from @edpatino : how big the fix after a 60 GB SU5 ? 

 

I had posted a video of the Xbox lod which introduced popin when not set up correctly. That video was reported and taken down. That is the build pmdg is talking about. Because the devs and testers were complaining, asobo sent us a build reverting back to the su4 lod to give the complainers time to fix. 

9 minutes ago, devgrp said:

What are you using to pan? I can use my right stick on my Xbox controller to pan around freely, same if I just press the mouse wheel and just move it around freely. I can also press and hold the right mouse button to pan around also. Never had it halt over a button or switch 

Hat switch on a CH yoke, PC version.

34 minutes ago, Seat* said:

...and nothing about the white dot while using controller.

 

The white dot is like a mouse cursor for the controller. If it wasn't there you wouldn't know where to point. Just like if you didn't have a mouse cursor you wouldn't know where to click 

2 minutes ago, WestAir said:

Hat switch on a CH yoke, PC version.

It must be how you set up the hat switch. I know that the hat switch is set up for views instead of panning by default 

38 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

Flying yesterday in a pure vanilla environment, I saw a village morphing from one lod to another before the aircraft nose at landing and the watermask appearing by bits on lateral view.

Lets not scapegoat the 3rd party dev. ...

I have a low end machine which was doing a good job pre-SU5 and I dont want this type of popping which reminds me the old days of the FS franchise.

not sure why you've quoted me.

 

anyway we ARE at pre SU5 with LODS - so nothing has changed in terms of that

Just now, Dominique_K said:

Correction : if this was so important they should have enforced it for products in the market place to begin with.🤣

I agree bu I also think that any decent developer should have used LOD's already.
Most developers have been developing for other sims in the past and LOD's is not exactly a new thing. Developers who have skimped on that will have the chance to correct that. If they do not bother updating their products we should not bother buying their products again.

Perhaps MS also should have implemented a kind of quality control for the marketplace but there might be valid arguments against such control as well.

9 hours ago, captain420 said:

I agree with this as well. The word in that context that should warn people is "TEMPORARY". I definitely do not want the PC version to use the same stripped down LOD system as the X-Box consoles. That would be a major downgrade for us. PC and X-Box are not even in the same playing field. One has simple hardware config among each and every device, while the PC is much more complex due to the different hardware setups that each and everyone of us has.

PC needs it's own LOD system, because our systems or more complex.

Yep

2 minutes ago, orchestra_nl said:

I agree bu I also think that any decent developer should have used LOD's already.
Most developers have been developing for other sims in the past and LOD's is not exactly a new thing. Developers who have skimped on that will have the chance to correct that. If they do not bother updating their products we should not bother buying their products again.

Perhaps MS also should have implemented a kind of quality control for the marketplace but there might be valid arguments against such control as well.

totally agree, Devs need to produce quality but not at the expense of performance - to a certain degree at least 

3 minutes ago, hanhamreds said:

not sure why you've quoted me.

 

anyway we ARE at pre SU5 with LODS - so nothing has changed in terms of that

Because you also  wrote

There shouldn't be any pop-ins if Devs adopt the new standard (4 LODS).

Popins are not only related to 3PD products.

My understanding is that we are not at SU4 but at mitigated version between SU4 and the Xbox SU5 but I wouldn’t wage my house on it. All this is as clear as muddy water.

Unfortunately, the way Asobo communicated the information about the LOD reversion in this update seemed to have created much more confusion than it resolved...it's a confusing and rather technical issue, sure, but I wish they'd been a little clearer that the reversion has in fact already happened, which would resolve at least half of that confusion. I've read those sentences multiple times and it sure sounds like they're talking about the next update -- which I know from reading everything else here that they certainly didn't mean.

In any case, exciting that down the road we may get even more performance improvements. Albeit at the cost of making a lot of work for some addon developers...

James

So I changed the two UserCfg.opt LOD values, which made things better. Should I change them back to default before the hotfix?

There are many new developers on the market and a lot of junk content. What is the developer's motivation to change something? If objects appear in the field of view a little later, this is not a big deal.