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1 hour ago, aniiran said:

My biggest issue is the way thunderstorms are depicted especially the high clouds, they are blocky and blurry. I am also not a fan of the Moire effect where the clouds meet the horizon or mountain ridge line in a turn. Other than that they are pretty good.  There also seems to be odd lighting inconstancies in regards to sun angle vs how dark the cloud is.  A lot of clouds are dark even with direct sunlight or thin overcast.  My cloud settings are ULTRA.

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Yep I am also seeing the high alt clouds like that....  wonder if Asobo is attempting some sort of cirrus cloud?


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2 hours ago, michaelray said:

Yes so true. Never pays to be too enthusiastic. I agree always room for improvement.

One of the recent interviews with Jorge, he said there were some advancements coming with weather “that would blow our minds”. I really look forward to it. Imagine what we will have if they can solidly build on this.

Really?  Wow, good Lord that is actually....something I would not be too surprised on.  They've left a lot of headroom now for higher end PC to exploit and that would be a killer place to do it.  Thanks for passing that on!


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I think the clouds are pretty good, even after the update, especially when compared to x-plane 11.  Remember those?

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There is no doubt that the clouds have been downgraded since SU5. Sure from a distance and in certain lighting and weather situations they can still look decent but at least half the time they look a lot worse for me now especially when up close. They have lost much of their detail and realism and often times now resemble something from an amateur oil painting.

If that's the way they were from the beginning, then sure, I'd say it's better than FSX or X-Plane but the fact remains that the clouds were considerably better before SU5 landed so I don't see why it shouldn't be called out for what it is, which whether we like it or not, is a downgrade made to run better on Xbox.

I think it is rather sneaky what has been done here with SU5 especially having promised that the sim would not be downgraded for PC users. Their silence says a lot considering all the community feedback.

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5 hours ago, ryanbatcund said:

Yep I am also seeing the high alt clouds like that....  wonder if Asobo is attempting some sort of cirrus cloud?

Yes but high clouds due to their elevation are composed of relativity low density ice crystals so when up close, high clouds are not well defined. As such, depiction of high clouds (mostly cirrostratus) in the sim, is a good representation of reality. 

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Clouds have always been a mixed bag and still are . They go from sensational (as in « never seen in a sim before ») to pretty good to... dreary (cf. cotonous grey balls of volcanic ash). I can’t see anything changed post-SU5.

 

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I've looked at clouds from both sides now, from up and down, and still somehow it's cloud illusions I recall. I really don't know clouds at all.

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seems like it depends a lot on lighting and time of day for how well (or not-so-well) the clouds look. 


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7 hours ago, fppilot said:

Maybe ahead of the default clouds in other sims, but with REX textures in those sims there is no comparison.  None!
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Is this photo cloud textures?

if so, we cant compare volumetric cloud rendering with cloud textures. It was great before 10 years.

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1 hour ago, Penz said:

I've looked at clouds from both sides now, from up and down, and still somehow it's cloud illusions I recall. I really don't know clouds at all.

But now they only block the sun, they rain and they snow on everyone. So many things I would have done,
but clouds got in my way.....

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16 hours ago, GCBraun said:

Yes, horrible!

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How spoiled we are nowadays! 😄

Looks like you’re running away from a volcano in that second pic, lol.


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26 minutes ago, Keirtt said:

Looks like you’re running away from a volcano in that second pic, lol.

I was flying in the Mount Etna area. 😉


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3 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

Clouds have always been a mixed bag and still are

Yep. Although I can produce good looking screenshots like those shown in this thread too my overall impression is that after SU5 I now more frequently think the skies I'm seeing could be achieved in P3D with EA as well (and I see an example in this thread already). I didn't have that impression from launch until SU5. I think some changes to the overall lighting play a roll as well as adaptations made for HDR users. Oh - and there's still some greenish/purple color banding on my SDR screen, although HF2 made that a bit less annoying.

Please note those are MY impressions. I acknowledge that others have different expectations and perceptions.

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10 hours ago, michaelray said:

Yes so true. Never pays to be too enthusiastic. I agree always room for improvement.

One of the recent interviews with Jorge, he said there were some advancements coming with weather “that would blow our minds”. I really look forward to it. Imagine what we will have if they can solidly build on this.

Last promised advancement "that would blow our minds" happened July 27th. 

I really hope this time we get it right.

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