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JF Arrow takeoff behavior.

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I haven't flown the JF arrow for months. Got it out of the hangar today, and on takeoff roll the aircraft feels like it is in a severe crosswind. Almost full rudder required as it accelerates to keep it from veering off the runway. I have played with rudder sensitivity, but doesn't seem to help much. I don't like to turn rudder assist on because I don't need it for any other aircraft. Has anyone else seen this?  

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

I haven't flown the JF arrow for months. Got it out of the hangar today, and on takeoff roll the aircraft feels like it is in a severe crosswind. Almost full rudder required as it accelerates to keep it from veering off the runway. I have played with rudder sensitivity, but doesn't seem to help much. I don't like to turn rudder assist on because I don't need it for any other aircraft. Has anyone else seen this?  

Yes - I have been flying recently with the V3 mod for the Beechcraft but took the JF Arrow out and noted exactly what you said, a lot of rudder. Also feels twitchy at rotation where it was pretty smooth last time I flew it.

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Just now, MrBitstFlyer said:

Yes - I have been flying recently with the V3 mod for the Beechcraft but took the JF Arrow out and noted exactly what you said, a lot of rudder. Also feels twitchy at rotation where it was pretty smooth last time I flew it.

Yeah, that is what I am seeing. I don't remember it being like that a couple of months ago. 

 

 

 

Same here. 

C. Uygar

Aircraft Maint. Engineer. at LTFJ

Try nose up trim 1,2–1,5 degrees. Should make it much easier.

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Not only that, it's airspeed is lower than a C 152. I am at 5000 feet now, 24 squared,  and it is reading 105 knots. After this flight, it is going back in the hangar, and I am putting it on blocks. The Carenado aircraft I have, sorry to say, handle and fly much better. 

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Was there another update patch that I missed?  I haven't flown it in about a week, but I hadn't noticed this behavior.  Can't see how things could have changed without having applied an update. 

The last few days I used the Arrow a lot. I do not recognize any of the issues mentioned here. I have no trouble at all to keep her on the centreline, with just a little help from the right foot. Also, cruisespeed is about 130-140 knots.

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1 minute ago, Rimshot said:

The last few days I used the Arrow a lot. I do not recognize any of the issues mentioned here. I have no trouble at all to keep her on the centreline, with just a little help from the right foot. Also, cruisespeed is about 130-140 knots.

Have you updated yours, or better yet, what version is yours.  I have version 9.0? 

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Hmmm, I have been flying the Turbo Arrow... have not seen that at all. 

Need to trim nose up for some reason to avoid that behavior.

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OK, I just discovered on approach that I had been flying a two hour flight with one notch of flaps down. I kept looking at the lever, and it looked like it was all the way down, but I have  tool tips  turned off, and couldn't see that it was up one click. 🤥   I just tried a takeoff with a bit of nose up trim, and that seemed much better. 

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I don't have the Arrow installed anymore, but both the Turbo version and Warrior works fine for me.

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This is the standard Arrow ?

Will test it.

Trim and mixture come to mind. It has always needed nose up trim on take-off and a bit of leaning even at low altitude.

Another possibility is a glitch in the state saving = have people tried turning state saving off?

 

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