1 hour ago, Humpty said:

Yeah that would probably depend on the manufacturer and BIOS they use / design , and most OEM's have windows ready Desktops / Laptops  so they are probably MS signed 

. I would not want a computer with access rights and that too only that sit with MS.

I am actually tempted to try out some other flavor of linux with secure boot which probably is not using MS signed keys , any idea which ?

 

The only one I am aware of is Redhat Enterprise, seen SUSE Enterprise Linux while I was googling, not sure on their implementations, wouldn't surprise me if they also had their kernels signed by MS....

As I understand it, it solves a specific problem - protecting installed software from unauthorised hardware access, that has a few important use cases (office servers, library machines, banks and accounting departments that need protecting from disgruntled employees or randoms off the street)

Lenovo and Dell both have big Linux departments, that kinda looks like

 

Edited October 13, 20214 yr by mSparks

8 hours ago, tonywob said:

even more reason for me to not upgrade anytime soon.

probably for the best...

https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/13/22723998/windows-11-update-amd-ryzen-cpu-performance-worse

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AMD warned last week that its chips are experiencing performance issues in Windows 11, and now Microsoft’s first update to its new OS has reportedly made the problems worse. TechPowerUp reports that it’s seeing much higher latency, which means worse performance, after the Windows 11 update went live yesterday.

AMD and Microsoft found two issues with Windows 11 on Ryzen processors. Windows 11 can cause L3 cache latency to triple, slowing performance by up to 15 percent in certain games. The second issue affects AMD’s preferred core technology, that shifts threads over to the fastest core on a processor. AMD says this second bug could impact performance on CPU-reliant tasks.

Im at something of a loss for words here, this release has me entertaining the idea that maybe microsoft actually really wants to kill its windows product line (to focus on its azure and xbox cash cows).

Tom's Hardware has tested secure boot and HVCI and has found that there's a 5% performance penalty in games with them enabled even in Win10. I've tried to turn OFF HVCI but it won't let me because my Saitek drivers are incompatible apparently. 

Seems they are saying now that MS will be banning all apps except that which are purchased from there store unless there is a workaround. Nice to have BB watching over us, hes so nice.. Not.

5 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

Seems they are saying now that MS will be banning all apps except that which are purchased from there store unless there is a workaround. Nice to have BB watching over us, hes so nice.. Not.

BB?

42 minutes ago, strider1 said:

BB?

Big brother,, really..

1 hour ago, mjrhealth said:

Big brother,, really..

A lot of talk of Regulator Capture in the Alt Media lately. 

I read some great posts about Google/Mozilla, China/Aluminum and NASA/Covid. I would love to share but cognitive dissonance around is not worth my time...

 

Anybody familiar with AMD 6800-XT cards on linux? I am tempted to pull the trigger, since there appears to be no end in sight with all the shortages. Intel CEO says shortage will continue till 2023. 

8 hours ago, strider1 said:

Anybody familiar with AMD 6800-XT cards on linux? I am tempted to pull the trigger, since there appears to be no end in sight with all the shortages. Intel CEO says shortage will continue till 2023. 

I tried to instal Pop! OS but my PC is having none of it. I disabled Secure Boot but the PC then it would not even power on until I'd left it a while. Once I'd got it back there is no way to get it to boot from the USB flash drive. Guess I'm stuck with Windows. I recon once you enable Secure Boot you are done and there's no way back.

3 hours ago, jarmstro said:

I tried to instal Pop! OS but my PC is having none of it. I disabled Secure Boot but the PC then it would not even power on until I'd left it a while. Once I'd got it back there is no way to get it to boot from the USB flash drive. Guess I'm stuck with Windows. I recon once you enable Secure Boot you are done and there's no way back.

That's weird. I am not a PC expert but I do not think that the way it's suppose to work. Did you disable secure boot in the bios? 

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/disabling-secure-boot

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/disable-secure-uefi-dual-boot/

Edited October 24, 20214 yr by strider1

12 hours ago, strider1 said:

That's weird. I am not a PC expert but I do not think that the way it's suppose to work. Did you disable secure boot in the bios? 

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/disabling-secure-boot

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/disable-secure-uefi-dual-boot/

As far as I know there is no other way other than the bios to turn off Secure Boot? And even with it turned off I still could not get it to boot from the flash drive although no doubt I was doing something wrong. Not being able to power on the PC has put me off any further attempt in any case.

21 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

As far as I know there is no other way other than the bios to turn off Secure Boot? And even with it turned off I still could not get it to boot from the flash drive although no doubt I was doing something wrong. Not being able to power on the PC has put me off any further attempt in any case.

Did you check your boot priority in the bios? Your flash drive and or Iso could be corrupt/broken, etc... Maybe you have a loose connection in your pc cabling/ram, etc...  Never give up!!!  

Does mobo have dual bios, can try backup.

It should work even with secure boot. 

My B350 Gaming Plus works perfect with UEFI / TPM for Windows 10 and Ubuntu 20, POP OS is using the Ubuntu repo I believe , i really don't think it should have a problem.

Is this a branded system ?

ABout to install Pop on the Mid-2010 Macbook , i have used Pop a couple of years ago , found it a bit too heavy on my Toshiba , let's see whats changed