Rainy early morning, this is typical of what I'm talking about

6 hours ago, EGLD said:

today wasn't the worst orange I've seen, but the 1st image is the default, and the 2nd is after a couple mins tweaking in nVidia overlay, which looks more like what I saw in real life

 

 

The first one is what I usually see at sunset or dawn IRL. The second one looks like during the day, not realistic for sunset. I guess it depends on where you live.

Asking to fix that for you will "unfix" that for others, so what they should do is give users options to change the colors, like REX used to do.

Edited November 16, 20214 yr by Alvega

Can agree, some minor tweaking in the sunset / sunrise shading based on location would be nice. Being from Denmark, you rarely get these full fat saturated sights and the nuclear bloom.

 

6 minutes ago, Alvega said:

The first one is what I usually see at sunset or dawn IRL. The second one looks like during the day, not realistic for sunset. I guess it depends on where you live.

Asking to fix that for you will "unfix" that for others, so what they should do is give users options to change the colors, like REX used to do.

that's the trouble, it wasn't dawn/sunrise - the sun had already been up an hour or so, it was early morning, but the real world was bright like daylight, like the picture below

clouds are making the world darker and orange, more so than it is in the real world *at that exact time*

if I remove the clouds, it looks realistic

this is a better example of the issue;

Clouds

 

No clouds

in real life,the world turns grey with clouds, not orange

 

"so what they should do is give users options to change the colors, like REX used to do."

that's exactly what I'm posting here - nVidia filters give us the ability to "fix" it for people who want to

5 minutes ago, EGLD said:

in real life,the world turns grey with clouds, not orange

No, not everywhere, specially not with the sun in that position. Again, that second shot is not realistic for some countries, it may be realistic for where you live. 

fair enough, so the sim lighting is only realistic in certain parts of the world right now, which is a shame

54 minutes ago, EGLD said:

Greetings!

Yeah I guess it's not a million miles from Hatfield - although Elstree is probably the closer VFR type airfield to Hatfield!

I honestly spent 2 mins on this, I suspect it might make the sim look ridiculous in other weather conditions/times of day, but it took away the ridiculous nuclear winter orange effect I see so much in the sim when it's bright outside in the real world which totally kills any motivation to fly when it looks so different to real life lighting at the same time - it's really quick to enable and disable effects when the time of day changes if it does look bad elsewhere, I quite like the effects of the Sharpen filters as well

Hey that's great - thanks! 

Yes I agree. The real world sunsets and sunrises can be quite vivid occasionally, but in general, I don't see them with such an orange tint all over them.  They seem to last longer than they should as well.

Not a major criticism from me as I know the sim needs a few tweaks here and there, and it's good compared to what I had in some previous sims.  Although some of the later environmental packs for FSX were right on the money, with quite naturally stunning sky colours at all times of the day.

Why some people don't see the strong orange tint, I don't know.  Maybe it is just a personal perception thing, so nobody is at fault.

So thanks. I will try it and give it a tweak it a bit if I need to.

5 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

Hey that's great!  Any chance you could share your overlay settings please?  Or at least a few pointers to get me started.  

Greetings from Birmingham to Denham by the way - the home of the Pink Panther if you remember the old joke!   
When I did the rounds (OK, yes I was a plane spotter), I seemed to remember it wasn't too far from Hatfield, the home of the BAe 146, which looks to be coming to MSFS soon as well.  

I lived in Welwyn Garden City for 20 years.  Lots of 146's overhead test flying until it closed - I was just 4 miles from the end of the runway.  the 146 Pro addon will be purchased by myself seconds after release 😁

28 minutes ago, EGLD said:

fair enough, so the sim lighting is only realistic in certain parts of the world right now, which is a shame

I can agree with that.

The problem is the sky colors (specially at sunset and dawn) are different depending on where in the world you are, so they can't please everyone. The only way to please everyone is for a 3PD like REX to come up with an addon that lets people pick up the colors that are realistic for where they live. I guess REX didn't do this yet because the SDK doesn't permit, but I hope they can do it soon.

12 hours ago, EGLD said:

I often open the sim early morning, and if it's cloudy in the UK, it looks like an orange nuclear wasteland, really not realistic at all, and looks nothing like you see out of the window

If you have an nVidia card and Geforce experience, I've found that you can almost "fix" this yourself by playing with the game filters in the overlay - Alt-F3

Most effective are the colour tint and brightness/contrast settings

 

 

Yes you right. I was already playing with overlay to achieve more realistic look. Problem I came across is that it has to be dynamic. If we set correct colour on ground then when we reach cruise level it will look way too cold. I was trying to look for solutions to do this automatically but with no luck. Maybe reshade?

Obviously people most affected by this are who live/fly in countries where overcast is 6 out of 7 days a week... like UK. Must be a reason why I haven't seen much discussions about this.

😁 i think you might be onto something there, it is predominantly cloudy all the time in the UK

was flying with this a bit yesterday and yes, it doesn't look good anywhere else unfortunately, so it's a very limited "fix"

I agree that, if Asobo don't see this as a big issue, or an issue at all, we may be reliant on 3rd party devs to give some dynamic means of fixing this

It's always amusing seeing threads like this...  not saying anyone is right or wrong, but this was the view from my living room window this morning in Dartmouth in the UK 🙂

34 minutes ago, Moria15 said:

It's always amusing seeing threads like this...  not saying anyone is right or wrong, but this was the view from my living room window this morning in Dartmouth in the UK 🙂

Lying.

 

That's heaven.

18 hours ago, EGLD said:

Hello, can you tell me where this "Game Filter" is hiding please? I have been through Geforce Experience and I cannot see the option anywhere.

 

 

 

18 hours ago, EGLD said:

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Edited November 17, 20214 yr by Espana Pete