3 minutes ago, birdguy said:

This moth is going to find another flame.

Isn't this your second attempt to disengage? It's not that easy. These forums are addictive.

5 minutes ago, dmwalker said:

To put things in perspective, what safety precautions do police take when carrying sidearms?

In my experience (I was on the job for a short while in a former life) yes they do. And for the same reasons I do today. Think of it this way, back when all the guns the police carried were double-action revolvers all you had to do was draw it and pull the trigger. Why should it be any different with todays semi-autos?

20 minutes ago, birdguy said:

I have over 30 likes

 

😁 That proves it then.

We have "gun safety expert" number one on the forum who stores his deadly pistol under the bed, not locked up, magazine in place and then admits its so he can get it out, chamber a round WITH HIS FINGER ON THE TRIGGER.

Gun safety expert number two, stores his gun unlocked, magazine in place AND A ROUND CHAMBERED and contadicts gun safety expert number one by telling us that ( obviously) we  shouldn't  have our finger on the trigger until the threat is assessed.

😁 No hard feelings guys but I'm not impressed with your gun safety advice.

Why do you guys think many states make it mandatory to have a gun safe? Ive just seen on a forum  a guy who opens his gun safe in TWO seconds. Surely you guys could spare two seconds. 

 

Edited October 25, 20214 yr by martin-w

Meanwhile, back on the movie set....

8 minutes ago, martin-w said:

Why do you guys think many states make it mandatory to have a gun safe?

I don't think, I know. There are two primary reasons (do some research) 1.) to keep the firearms away from children, and 2.) to reduce the suicide rate among young people (the youngest person in my house is 77. So do I need a safe?). 

My State doesn't require a safe but in almost every case I know of the wording requiring a safe is similar:

(1) A person who stores or leaves, on a premise under his or her control, a loaded firearm, as defined in s. 790.001, and who knows or reasonably should know that a minor is likely to gain access to the firearm without the lawful permission of the minor’s parent or the person having charge of the minor, or without the supervision required by law, shall keep the firearm in a securely locked box or container or in a location which a reasonable person would believe to be secure or shall secure it with a trigger lock, except when the person is carrying the firearm on his or her body or within such close proximity thereto that he or she can retrieve and use it as easily and quickly as if he or she carried it on his or her body.

16 minutes ago, martin-w said:

Ive just seen on a forum  a guy who opens his gun safe in TWO seconds.

Good for him. How long did it take him to get to the safe?

17 minutes ago, W2DR said:

Good for him. How long did it take him to get to the safe?

 

No different to how long it takes to get to a gun NOT in a safe. 🙄

I find it amusing that my dad had a LOCKED gun cabinet for his AIR RIFLES! And the police in the UK came out to check that he had them locked in his cabinet. 😁 Compare that to you guys with your deadly pistols magazine in place, rounds chambered,  and lying under your beds. 

The statistics are making sense. 

I admit, I'm winding you up a bit, but please get yourselves a safe guys. One touch on the finger print scanner and its open. A split second isn't an issue. Maybe its because I'm English and guns aren't around here, but I find the way you do things very eyebrow raising. 

 

Edited October 25, 20214 yr by martin-w

2 minutes ago, martin-w said:

No different to how long it takes to get to a gun NOT in a safe.

I see. You have your safe right next to the bed. And all you have to do is get up to open it. I guarantee you that I can get to my gun much faster than you can get to yours. Just imagine the bad guy entering your room with a knife or gun in his hand. Which would you rather do, get up and open your safe of reach under you pillow? And always remember Martin, never take a knife to a gunfight.

28 minutes ago, W2DR said:

I see. You have your safe right next to the bed. And all you have to do is get up to open it.

 

Noel has his draw under the bed. No different to a safe under the bed or wherever you want to put it. Many of them aren't large.

 

28 minutes ago, W2DR said:

reach under you pillow?

 

You have a loaded gun, magazine in place, round chambered, under your pillow. I suspect you are Clint Eastwood in a spaghetti western. 😁

Do you guys have alarm systems in the US? 

 

Edited October 25, 20214 yr by martin-w

12 minutes ago, martin-w said:

Do you guys have alarm systems in the US? 

Of course we do. But picture this. You're in lying in bed. You've just had the best sex in your life. You fall sound asleep. And  then an alarm goes off. The intruder is right outside your door. You wake up. Confused. Was that the alarm clock? Or was it the smoke detector? What time is it? Maybe  it was the telephone. By the time you realize what's happening you'll be lucky to  have enough time to reach under the pillow or reach into the drawer or reach under the bed. I guarantee you may won't have enough time to get up and open the safe.

On the subject of fingerprint scanner technology I can only relate just how surprised I was when enabling such on my latest smart phone...

What was most surprising is that it doesn't matter the angle at which one presents the scanned "finger." It just works! Right side up, sideways, or even upside down! 😁

25 minutes ago, martin-w said:

Do you guys have alarm systems in the US? 

I must say, I would prefer to have a reliable alarm system than a gun. It seems safer to have an alarm system which automatically alerts the police and probably scares off the intruder rather than having to confront an intruder inside my house.

27 minutes ago, martin-w said:

You have a loaded gun, magazine in place, round chambered, under your pillow. I suspect you are Clint Eastwood in a spaghetti western

Nope. More like Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry. I've met him by the way. A while back I spent many hours at the Mission Ranch sitting at the piano bar listening to Jackie playing. She did Misty almost as good as Erroll Garner. Clint would wander through the bar and the dining room just asking people if they were enjoying themselves (he owns the place). A really nice, personable guy.

How about a system that generates the loud sound of a pump action shotgun racking a round at the push of a button? One could wear a "panic button" similar to those First Alert type devices.

3 minutes ago, dmwalker said:

I must say, I would prefer to have a reliable alarm system than a gun. It seems safer to have an alarm system which automatically alerts the police and probably scares off the intruder rather than having to confront an intruder inside my house.

Never, ever, forget this:  When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.