24 minutes ago, Gulfstream said:

 

So numbers don't lie. It doesn't look good for Linux users.

See also

 

 

Edited November 27, 20214 yr by mSparks

Linus has been try to beat MS/Windows since the 90's. It hasn't really gained market share.

3 hours ago, Greazer said:

Linus has been try to beat MS/Windows since the 90's. It hasn't really gained market share.

Or

https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-based-windows-makes-perfect-sense/

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8764

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/could-microsoft-be-en-route-to-dumping-windows-in-favor-of-linux/

 

When people talk about pc, they mean that bulky thing with a screen attached, or a laptop. Not a handheld, not a game console and certainly not a smartphone or a smartwatch.

I already said that android is the big exception, and this because it has a proper App Store with an easy install of apps.

It is also where macOS has the big advantage.

Try explaining what a repository is to someone who has no clue why he has to install a security update on his windows to avoid a virus infection. Why do you think Microsoft is forcing updates to his user bases?

For work, I switched to a Mac Pro for exactly the same reasons you mentioned.

So believe me we are in the same page, just that Linux is not ready for the masses, because of the reasons I mentioned.

14 minutes ago, soaring_penguin said:

Try explaining what a repository is to someone who has no clue why he has to install a security update on his windows to avoid a virus infection.

A place your computer goes to get software and updates so you dont have to.

Not to be confused with suppository, which doesnt work on linux.

Edited November 27, 20214 yr by mSparks

Not to mention the risk this practice involves to get buggy or infected updates on your computer.

and only to find out it got disabled after the next big OS update and you are not getting updates anymore.

Repositories are imo  the number one problem in the Linux ecosystem.

20 minutes ago, soaring_penguin said:

Repositories are imo  the number one problem in the Linux ecosystem.

You're gonna have to explain that one. Never having to visit dodgy websites to install software is among the things I love most about it, even mac is somewhat dependant on brew.

Sure beats following anything in this guide

https://softwarekeep.com/help-center/how-to-fix-the-windows-key-not-working-on-windows-10

to make the windows key work on a brand new machine.

Especially when nothing there actually solves the problem, and at least one of the proposed fixes involves using the windows key that doesnt work.

"keyboard error, press F2 to continue"

Edited November 27, 20214 yr by mSparks

1 hour ago, mSparks said:

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/could-microsoft-be-en-route-to-dumping-windows-in-favor-of-linux/

There is no way MS would dump Windows. Windows is renowned for backwards compatibility.  The idea of dumping Windows and all associated software is never going to happen.

9 minutes ago, Greazer said:

There is no way MS would dump Windows. Windows is renowned for backwards compatibility.  The idea of dumping Windows and all associated software is never going to happen.

Thing with rebuttals, is

"Im important and I dont want it to happen" 

Doesnt make a good one.

Also, Microsoft... backward compatibility... rofl... have you tried running any windows xp software or hardware recently. Your best bet there IS linux.

Hows all that activeX software that enterprise invested so heavily in working out for them?

Dont worry, silverlight will be different.

Edited November 27, 20214 yr by mSparks

21 minutes ago, mSparks said:

You're gonna have to explain that one. Never having to visit dodgy websites to install software is among the things I love most about it, even mac is somewhat dependant on brew.

I'll try.

Your point is true as long a user is happy with the content of the official repos. When the user discovers (which he will) that there are unofficial, third party repos that have the game that he wants to try (or that proprietary driver blob or whatever, you name it) already precompiled, all that security goes down the drain.

Plus he gets to fiddle with setting up repos which will put most users off.

This is the opposite of "click install.exe". Much more complicated. And as soon as you're taking the user into account, comparably insecure.

9 minutes ago, mSparks said:

Thing with rebuttals, is

"Im important and I dont want it to happen" 

Doesnt make a good one.

I explained clearly why it would never happen.  Perhaps you misread.

18 minutes ago, rka said:

that there are unofficial, third party repos that have the game that he wants to try

well, for RH we have rpmfusion. Thats a basic part of setup for any desktop not handling large volumes of financial data.

divided into free (OSS software) and nonfree (steam, nvidia drivers, closed source multimedia codecs etc).

Many large enterprises run their own, built from source after auditing. Others rely on microsoft and generally get caught in scandals like Target or Solarwinds.

13 minutes ago, Greazer said:

I explained clearly why it would never happen.  Perhaps you misread.

You said windows is "renowed for backwards compatibility"

The closest windows gets to backwards compatibility is its "compatibility mode" which already doesnt work 90% of the time.

Therefore if thats the only reason they wont then they probably will.

Edited November 27, 20214 yr by mSparks

5 minutes ago, mSparks said:

You said windows is "renowed for backwards compatibility"

https://www.techradar.com/au/news/software/operating-systems/10-very-old-apps-that-still-somehow-work-on-windows-10-1299300

9 hours ago, mSparks said:

I already linked you the data and sites. Android is a Linux distribution with a bundled bullet proof gui that can be written in java and kotlin.  "Android native" is just "compiled against arm linux"

Personally, Im expecting the XP12 UI to be very similar to the current mobile version. (very much guessing/speculating there tho)

Ok, I was not taking into account the mobile version.  Even I own that, I think I paid $99 for it and used it once.

No wonder so much focus has gone into that version.

I am referring to this discussion being about "proper" desktop flight simulation.  In that case, ~96% is on Windows and 1% is on Linux.

There are very good reasons for that.