November 20, 20214 yr 33 minutes ago, jcomm said: It has been working very well with Active Sky since ages ... They use all sources of observation, model / forecast data, merge them into consistent display and voilá! it's there as I would expect to see it in MFS too... The ultimate goal is certainly not to have what we had in P3D. The Asobo weather was lacking but it was still way better than that. Willing to imitate Active Sky as some loud voices demand is a sure way to ruin everything as SU7 shows. Horrible clouds hugging the ground or hanging in the skies. Vatsim is certainly not what should dictate how the weather works for a huge majority of simmers. Edited November 20, 20214 yr by Dominique_K Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
November 20, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, Ohmsquare said: On top of that, it seems that cloud base in new METAR system is based on MSL (instead of AGL): Are cloud bases in new METAR system in AGL or MSL? - Bugs & Issues / Online Services & Activities - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums Please everyone vote on this thread. We really need a hotfix for this one. We really dont want to wait for a month or more to get this fixed do we? 😉
November 20, 20214 yr 52 minutes ago, Dominique_K said: The ultimate goal is certainly not to have what we had in P3D. The Asobo weather was lacking but it was still way better than that. Willing to imitate Active Sky as some loud voices demands is a sure way to ruin everything as SU7 shows. Horrible clouds hugging the ground or hanging in the skies. Vatsim is certainly not what should dictate how the weather works for a huge majority of simmers. I do like the HUGE difference that weather display represents in MFS - it's simply ASTOUNDING ! ( edited to take out the negative comments, when actually I do love the views, and even some of the effects 🙂 - Thx Devon for the hint !!!! ) Edited November 20, 20214 yr by jcomm Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
November 20, 20214 yr And this is the problem with us never being satisfied with what we have, as we let our quest for the perfect continually blind us to the fact that sometimes a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush...... We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
November 20, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, HiFlyer said: And this is the problem with us never being satisfied with what we have, as we let our quest for the perfect continually blind us to the fact that sometimes a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush...... I agree 😞 Ya know me Devon... 🙂 Edited the post in accordance 😉 👍 Edited November 20, 20214 yr by jcomm Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
November 20, 20214 yr The new Asobo weather. 😱 Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
November 20, 20214 yr Yes, it has it's quirks, but it does LOOK GREAT !!! and FEEL GREAT !!! I'm a moaner sometimes ... Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
November 20, 20214 yr 18 minutes ago, jcomm said: I agree 😞 Ya know me Devon... 🙂 Edited the post in accordance 😉 👍 😹 We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
November 20, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, jcomm said: Yes, it has it's quirks, but it does LOOK GREAT !!! and FEEL GREAT !!! I'm a moaner sometimes ... yes the new weather looks great in a Fallout RPG. Kinda post-apocalyptic. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
November 20, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, BillC said: Metar derived wx for airports is vital for those of us who fly on Vatsim/Ivao etc because our ATC determine runway in use derived from Metars. It's important that they match. Also for cloud base (which MSFS doesn't understand), QNH etc. We need to be on the same page as ATC. It's understandable that you need and want that. But it's like flicking through a picture book of types of weather now. It looks awful. Currently circumnavigating the world in a mix of Cessna and Piper aircraft. My Default Setup; MSFS, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster Hotas X, TrackIR, Samsung Galaxy Tab, JustFlight Piper Arrow. Simworks Quest Kodiak 100. Wishlist; Honeycomb Bravo, Honeycomb Charlie. 1:400 Airline Model Collector.
November 20, 20214 yr I am curious to see how Laminar will implement its weather in XP12. If I understand well they are going the same as Asobo : Global weather forecast melted with Metar… Pierre
November 20, 20214 yr Didn't they recently say they want to stop bringing unfinished features into the sim and test more thoroughly? I'm sure they will get there with the weather at some point hopefully next year, but right now this obviously is in Beta state if at all. Why do they bring that into the sim as a mandatory update? When they had a fantastic weather engine as a flagship feature of MSFS? Edited November 20, 20214 yr by RALF9636
November 20, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, BillC said: Metar derived wx for airports is vital for those of us who fly on Vatsim/Ivao etc because our ATC determine runway in use derived from Metars. It's important that they match. Also for cloud base (which MSFS doesn't understand), QNH etc. We need to be on the same page as ATC That’s what we had. Live Weather has been using r/w METAR reports to set airport surface wind, temperature and pressure for almost a year now. Until SU7, clouds, precipitation and visibility still came from the MB model forecast. Setting visibility to exactly 10 miles when the METAR reports “10SM” is not a good idea. In the US, that could indicate that the visibility is indeed 10 miles - or it could be unlimited. At the very least they should also look at the temperature/dewpoint spread. It is indeed possible for there to be thick haze even when the atmosphere is extremely dry, if smoke is involved. That was the case for much of this past summer in the western US due to massive forest fires that burned for weeks - but in that case, the METAR should have a code “FU” for smoke. If dust is present (common in desert areas when it is windy), there should be a code “DU”. It appears they are also interpreting METAR cloud heights as height above sea level, when in reality METAR clouds are reported as height above the ground. That can be a major issue for high altitude airports. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
November 20, 20214 yr I don't get it, isn't in this forum where people were moaning that weather wasn't accurate before? 😄 Edited November 20, 20214 yr by omarsmak30 AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 64GB DDR5 6000MHZ RAM, RX7900XT, FreeSync 165hz 1440p display
November 20, 20214 yr Another case in point of mixing AGL and MSL. Leaving Luzern (a nice rendition of LSZO by the way) in Switzerland. At that stage, the problem is not quality control, it is basic supervision of collaborators. They are a bunch of bright engineers but is there anybody in the left seat ? Visionary blah blah to please the crowd has never been a substitute for management. I am afraid that those praising the new haze, just take off in a cloud hugging the ground 😋 11 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said: I don't get it, isn't in this forum where people were moaning that weather wasn't accurate before? 😄 A strawman argument if any. My feeling is that there was, on the contrary, quite a large consensus to praise the new weather engine. Only a minority was demanding to see in the sim what they saw through their window in real time. They were flaws of course but the foundations seemed good. Edited November 20, 20214 yr by Dominique_K Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
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