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Kodiak problems - Stall and left roll!!

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It's a Brave New World sd. To be fair, he did say that they didn't get the same service as Microsoft got but they did get it with a bit of a time lag. Daher, apparently were very accomodating.

The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA

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12 minutes ago, karlz said:

Anyone know how to dim the Garmin displays for night flying, can’t seem to find a knob like the Caravan has.

 

 

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On PFD click on MENU. Switch to manual and adjust

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11 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

It's a Brave New World sd. To be fair, he did say that they didn't get the same service as Microsoft got but they did get it with a bit of a time lag. Daher, apparently were very accomodating.

You are right! Apparently!

We have Kodiak at my airport if have a chance to see it again I snap picture!

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4 hours ago, fogboundturtle said:

I think this is a  pure case of an armchair pilot that think they know more than real pilot who flew the Kodiak before. I didn't see anything wrong when it comes to rudder trim or takeoff time. I see the OP didn't read the manual and try to takeoff too early.

That's correct.  I am the OP, and I admit that I forgot to rudder trim accordingly prior to takeoff.  Once I trimmed about 30% to the right, my takeoff was stable.  More testing is warranted in order to get the hang of this bird but I realized that reading the manual helps 🙂

Sincerely,

Dennis D. Müllert

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Where is the percentage rudder trim shown on the panel?  

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In the manual it says you need to use tool tips to see the rudder and aileron trim percentages.  I seem to have lost my tool tips somewhere along the way...

Dave

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33 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Where is the percentage rudder trim shown on the panel?  

Hello.  The % rudder trim is displayed in the center display towards the bottom left.

Sincerely,

Dennis D. Müllert

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29 minutes ago, regis9 said:

In the manual it says you need to use tool tips to see the rudder and aileron trim percentages.  I seem to have lost my tool tips somewhere along the way...

Hello.  The % rudder trim is displayed in the center display towards the bottom left.

Sincerely,

Dennis D. Müllert

System Specs: MoBo:  MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi ATX AM5.  CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D.  Memory:  128GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5600 CL-40.  GPU: 24GB Asus TUF Gaming OC GeForce RTX 4090.  Monitor: LG UltraGear+ 45" curved OLED.  Power Supply: Corsair 1500 Watt 80+ Platinum ATX. HD: 2TB Sabrent Rocket NVME SSD.  Windows 11 Pro.

Flight Sim Hardware:  Joystick: Thrustmaster T16000M.  Rudder Pedals: Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Pedals.  Yoke: Honeycomb Alpha.  Throttles: Honeycomb Bravo.  Controller: XBox Controller

 
 
29 minutes ago, DMullert said:

Hello.  The % rudder trim is displayed in the center display towards the bottom left.

Thanks!

Dave

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It's been some time since I was here!

To address what I managed to catch from the discussion, trim does indeed help.

We received a lot of help from Daher to make the airplane as close as MSFS allows us to and that extended beyond manuals. The people in France and Idaho got us an incredible amount of feedback, from photos to 3D, to information and testimony. You know it, of course, that this plane is not a training tool for the real thing and we made sure to state it clearly in the manual & Kodiak EULA, for those that won't read the MSFS EULA.

Now, the plane was test-flown a number of times by them and we used that to dial in the basics. We also did a lot of testing internally, where we were lucky to also have a Kodiak pilot (non-fsctory) to fly her daily and give us a lot of feedback very quickly.

Of course, there are things to improve as well as things out of our control, but we came as close as we could for what we believe is a good v1.0.

 

Now for the plane being planted to the left of the runway:

P-Factor is strong. We were told that 30-50% right rudder trim is needed for that starting take-off roll. Part of the pull is absorbed by the ground, in the form of pressing the left gear against the ground and that makes things easier.

Upon getting off the ground, you no longer have that convenience which means you need to add right pedal and yoke to counter.

Why would you crash though? If you don't trim for takeoff and pull too much on the yoke, you can end up at 20 degrees of pitch with 65 knots. That will open up AoA, lose lift and the torque will drag you left while gravity gets you down.

 

Without writing more, proper takeoff technique can be seen in this video: 

https://youtu.be/x8PMTJ-_MFs

 

Also, MBP explains what happens on takeoff at around 5:40-6:10: https://youtu.be/8uPWeyfjIi0

Notice the controls on the right seat.

Of course, weather, CG and altitude will require adjustment, but I hope this gets you off straight and safely.

 

PS. Sorry for the long and rushed post, I am on my phone 

Edited by A320_SX ALX

Thanks for the post and congratulations on this release.  After several takeoffs and landings last night I definitely found that proper trim settings are your friend in successfully getting off the ground and staying off the ground.  It’s certainly much less tolerant of improper trimming than other aircraft.  I still have practicing to do in order to really have a nice takeoff but certainly having the trim figured out makes a big difference.

Conversely to the challenging takeoffs, landings are easy and a dream to do.

Dave

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9 hours ago, DMullert said:

Hello.  The % rudder trim is displayed in the center display towards the bottom left.

Thanks very much 🙂

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21 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

Using the NXi and was on an LPV approach.. two notches of flaps, about 90 kts, on the glidepath.

Not sure what triggers it..

Do you have other add ons running? For example Air Hauler I used has GPWS system that unless turned off goes off very often.

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2 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Do you have other add ons running? For example Air Hauler I used has GPWS system that unless turned off goes off very often.

Not really... but today it has not reappeared.. 😉

Bert

I'm having the same issue. Autopilot is off. Rudder trim set. Rolls over right after takeoff to the left and crash. This stinks.

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