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Kodiak problems - Stall and left roll!!

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Hello Gang!

For those of you that purchased the Kodiak, is anyone experiencing an immediate STAL STALL STALL on take off, followed by a hard roll to the left and the ground?  I can't figure that out to save my life and wanted to inquire about this before posting a ticket with their support folks.

Thanks!

 

Sincerely,

Dennis D. Müllert

System Specs: MoBo:  MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi ATX AM5.  CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D.  Memory:  128GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5600 CL-40.  GPU: 24GB Asus TUF Gaming OC GeForce RTX 4090.  Monitor: LG UltraGear+ 45" curved OLED.  Power Supply: Corsair 1500 Watt 80+ Platinum ATX. HD: 2TB Sabrent Rocket NVME SSD.  Windows 11 Pro.

Flight Sim Hardware:  Joystick: Thrustmaster T16000M.  Rudder Pedals: Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Pedals.  Yoke: Honeycomb Alpha.  Throttles: Honeycomb Bravo.  Controller: XBox Controller

 
 
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Just now, DMullert said:

Hello Gang!

For those of you that purchased the Kodiak, is anyone experiencing an immediate STAL STALL STALL on take off, followed by a hard roll to the left and the ground?  I can't figure that out to save my life and wanted to inquire about this before posting a ticket with their support folks.

Thanks!

 

Your A.P. might set to on...

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Just now, Sesquashtoo said:

Your A.P. might set to on...

AHH Craaaaap.  Good point.  I need to go check on that!!!!

Sincerely,

Dennis D. Müllert

System Specs: MoBo:  MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi ATX AM5.  CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D.  Memory:  128GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5600 CL-40.  GPU: 24GB Asus TUF Gaming OC GeForce RTX 4090.  Monitor: LG UltraGear+ 45" curved OLED.  Power Supply: Corsair 1500 Watt 80+ Platinum ATX. HD: 2TB Sabrent Rocket NVME SSD.  Windows 11 Pro.

Flight Sim Hardware:  Joystick: Thrustmaster T16000M.  Rudder Pedals: Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Pedals.  Yoke: Honeycomb Alpha.  Throttles: Honeycomb Bravo.  Controller: XBox Controller

 
 
1 minute ago, DMullert said:

Hello Gang!

For those of you that purchased the Kodiak, is anyone experiencing an immediate STAL STALL STALL on take off, followed by a hard roll to the left and the ground?  I can't figure that out to save my life and wanted to inquire about this before posting a ticket with their support folks.

Thanks!

 

I believe it's not a bug it's feature

From manual:

TAKE-OFF RUDDER TRIM The Kodiak has a very strong pull to the left at maximum power. When taking off, we recommend using 30-50% right trim

 

Also take a look at real Kodiak take off. Pay attention to the right rudder during take off (copilot side)

 

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Always....ALWAYS check to see if your sim did not spontaneously revert to legacy flight model!  Can't tell you how many times that happened to me...well I can actually....3 times.  1st time took 2 days to figure out (MSFS was pretty new back then)...the next 2 times...15 seconds to fix, hehe.

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16 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I believe it's not a bug it's feature

From manual:

TAKE-OFF RUDDER TRIM The Kodiak has a very strong pull to the left at maximum power. When taking off, we recommend using 30-50% right trim

 

Also take a look at real Kodiak take off. Pay attention to the right rudder during take off (copilot side)

 

Thanks for the tip - wheeeww - That rudder trim was the culprit.  Back to Kodiak school.

Sincerely,

Dennis D. Müllert

System Specs: MoBo:  MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi ATX AM5.  CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D.  Memory:  128GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5600 CL-40.  GPU: 24GB Asus TUF Gaming OC GeForce RTX 4090.  Monitor: LG UltraGear+ 45" curved OLED.  Power Supply: Corsair 1500 Watt 80+ Platinum ATX. HD: 2TB Sabrent Rocket NVME SSD.  Windows 11 Pro.

Flight Sim Hardware:  Joystick: Thrustmaster T16000M.  Rudder Pedals: Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Pedals.  Yoke: Honeycomb Alpha.  Throttles: Honeycomb Bravo.  Controller: XBox Controller

 
 
17 minutes ago, EDDB2020 said:

They stopped selling it from the website: https://simworksstudios.com/aircraft/msfs-kodiak-100.html

Wondering why; since the main web stores are now selling it?

Richard Chafey

 

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4 minutes ago, RichieFly said:

Wondering why; since the main web stores are now selling it?

To allow people who bought the Kodiak to download their purchase.

https://fsprocedures.com Your home for all flight simulator related checklist.

According to their FAQ, you should check that you have set your loadout weights and trim appropriately:
https://simworksstudios.com/knowledge-base/kodiak-100/known-issues-kodiak-100.html

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1. Make sure that the plane is loaded within the CG limits of 14-40% MAC. To see this, open the weight & balance window in the simulator. If you don't see the CG schematic, drag the right edge of the window to make it bigger and reveal it.

2.Make sure that your take-off trim is set correctly. If your trim is set incorrectly, your plane will want to pitch up and you are likely to stall quickly. Controls will also feel light. Trim range for the Kodiak is:

--0% at 14% CG

--75% forward at 40% CG

 

1 hour ago, DMullert said:

Thanks for the tip - wheeeww - That rudder trim was the culprit.  Back to Kodiak school.

So I tried several take offs in Kodiak And I think you may be correct. There is something wrong with flight model. I got exactly the same behavior while CG was within limits and autopilot off!

Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

1 minute ago, sd_flyer said:

So I tried several take offs in Kodiak And I think you may be correct. There is something wrong with flight model. I got exactly the same behavior while CG was within limits and autopilot off!

did you adjust takeoff trim ?

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1 minute ago, fogboundturtle said:

did you adjust takeoff trim ?

No I didn't, but I believe it shouldn't lose control at Vr with ball centered

Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

No folks! Definitely something is wrong with FM. This is full deflection + rudder trim and Kodiak is not coordinated !

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Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

Rudders in neutral position don't look right. Right rudder depressed already!

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Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

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