9 hours ago, psolk said:

KEWR...  DD's effort was mediocre at best and there has been so much change... 

And JFK is awful too

😂At the rate we build new airports, runways and terminals, most airports in China is already outdated.

ZUUU got expanded south parking area, let say new airport ZUTF nearby, ZGGG, ZGSZ, ZPPP and ZULS,all got new terminal,  ZSQD moved to totally new airport and so would ZYTL, ZSSS got new taxiway and moved VOR, ZBAD got newly opened parking area (although it's on the scenery when it haven't been on charts) and the most updated one from WFSS: the ZSPD and VHHH are already building new runways.

14 hours ago, G-YMML1 said:

Brand new VTBS from A-A Sceneries should be released today

Don’t tease me….

12 hours ago, micstatic said:

Is your goal to get somebody to actually come in and mod a current payware?  Or is this just a curiosity thing?

I should just add to my earlier response to your question to say that if some enterprising freeware genius would like to create a brand new see through terminal building model for Aerosoft Gibraltar Professional (you know, as a sort of spare time project)......I would be awfully pleased

3 hours ago, barramundilure said:

Don’t tease me….

I don't...!!!

https://www.facebook.com/AASceneries/

2 hours ago, G-YMML1 said:

I don't...!!!

https://www.facebook.com/AASceneries/

lovely. count me in

SBKP - Viracopos  - it is such a cool airport the way it is situated and a great place to land in the early mornings after a long cargo flight from Europe.

Just a probably stupid question. Unless you live near, how on earth would you know about any change to an airport.? And would it even matter, as all your sim airport details would still work?

1 hour ago, IanHarrison said:

Just a probably stupid question. Unless you live near, how on earth would you know about any change to an airport.? And would it even matter, as all your sim airport details would still work?

I think for those of us who use charts from providers like Navigraph that are kept relatively up-to-date with the current state of an airport like to keep a relative similarity between the two to minimise confusion. It's also useful when flying online on services like vatsim as changes to taxiway layouts can potentially cause some inconvenience. I don't think most of us (except perhaps the true die-hards of us) notice most of the minor changes that always go on to airports, but the more significant ones are normally easy to pick-up as they tend to preceeded by a not insubstantial amount of construction work in the real world (which is often reflected in the charts from navigraph etc. for a time).

As someone who mostly flies offline without traffic mostly layout changes don't bother me that much - I mainly fly cargo and cargo terminals don't change much and for some airports like OMDB I still actively used old (now-demolished) cargo stands. Though it can be a very different story when I fly pax. In these cases it's a big help when devs provide charts of how the airport was at the time the scenery was made.

Only area where updates become an absolute must in my view is if there is significant change to the runway layout (KORD would be a good example) as without the right FMC procedures/ ILS frequencies it can be a huge faff to fly instrument approaches.

Edited January 25, 20224 yr by SimeonWilbury

2 hours ago, SimeonWilbury said:

Only area where updates become an absolute must in my view is if there is significant change to the runway layout (KORD would be a good example) as without the right FMC procedures/ ILS frequencies it can be a huge faff to fly instrument approaches.

Yes, I can see that if you fly on-line that would be a problem. I don't as I fly a lot of the time overnight with the AP in control, not me. As for frequencies, I must admit that I never use charts, I fly with Radar Contact and that always has the "correct" (in the sense that the PMDG plane and the ATC correspond to the Sim) frequencies, thanks to makerwys. Once my flight plan has got me within range RC takes over as I request vectors, then it is just a matter of locking on to the ILS.

40 minutes ago, IanHarrison said:

Yes, I can see that if you fly on-line that would be a problem. I don't as I fly a lot of the time overnight with the AP in control, not me. As for frequencies, I must admit that I never use charts, I fly with Radar Contact and that always has the "correct" (in the sense that the PMDG plane and the ATC correspond to the Sim) frequencies, thanks to makerwys. Once my flight plan has got me within range RC takes over as I request vectors, then it is just a matter of locking on to the ILS.

Yes, I imagine a good ATC service like what RC provides is very useful when using older airport layouts.

I've gotten so used to flying with no traffic or ATC over the years that I've become very reliant on charts, and I also use them a lot for navigating on the ground so a certain degree of accuracy to the current state is appreciated. It also depends on the level of flight planning you do I guess as well, as all my flights are planned via PFPX using the latest available Navigraph data.

Thankfully in the latter regard Navigraph still does navdata for Kai Tak, meaning I get to keep at least one bygone relic on my network.

1 hour ago, SimeonWilbury said:

Yes, I imagine a good ATC service like what RC provides is very useful when using older airport layouts.

I've gotten so used to flying with no traffic or ATC over the years that I've become very reliant on charts, and I also use them a lot for navigating on the ground so a certain degree of accuracy to the current state is appreciated. It also depends on the level of flight planning you do I guess as well, as all my flights are planned via PFPX using the latest available Navigraph data.

Thankfully in the latter regard Navigraph still does navdata for Kai Tak, meaning I get to keep at least one bygone relic on my network.

Also use Navigraph but via Simbrief which gives me my flight plan. I use a small moving Google earth map from FSWidgets for live flight routes/airport taxiing. It uses real life maps which correspond quite remarkably well to the sim's depictions.

Edited January 25, 20224 yr by IanHarrison

On 1/24/2022 at 7:55 AM, C2615 said:

😂At the rate we build new airports, runways and terminals, most airports in China is already outdated.

ZUUU got expanded south parking area, let say new airport ZUTF nearby, ZGGG, ZGSZ, ZPPP and ZULS,all got new terminal,  ZSQD moved to totally new airport and so would ZYTL, ZSSS got new taxiway and moved VOR, ZBAD got newly opened parking area (although it's on the scenery when it haven't been on charts) and the most updated one from WFSS: the ZSPD and VHHH are already building new runways.

Its not as if the Chinese can't afford it with all their new billionaires they just acquired over the last 2 years.