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Screw the planet, enough's enough.

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Methane has accounted for roughly 30 per cent of global warming since pre-industrial times and is proliferating faster than at any other time since record keeping began in the 1980s. In fact, according to data from the United States National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, even as carbon dioxideemissions decelerated during the pandemic-related lockdowns of 2020, atmospheric methane shot up.

 

https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/methane-emissions-are-driving-climate-change-heres-how-reduce-them

 

 

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Will reducing methane really help counter climate change?

Yes. Carbon dioxide remains in the atmosphere for hundreds to thousands of years. This means that even if emissions were immediately and dramatically reduced it would not have an effect on the climate until later in the century. But it takes only about a decade for methane to break down. So, reducing methane emissions now would have an impact in the near term and is critical for helping keep the world on a path to 1.5°C.

 

 

Sorry Noel... the cooker has to go. 😁

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1 minute ago, martin-w said:

I'll be coming round to your place later to rip out that stinky gas cooker. 

I've got something you don't have Martin, a gun.  Don't try it.  My castle, be it ever so humble, is protected.

Noel

The tires are worn.  The shocks are shot.  The steering is wobbly.  But the engine still runs fine.

4 minutes ago, birdguy said:

The methane I release today isn't going to outlive me by much, if at all.

 

But the positive feedback loop that results in more CO2 being released will. 

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2 minutes ago, birdguy said:

I've got something you don't have Martin, a gun.  Don't try it.  My castle, be it ever so humble, is protected.

Noel

 

😁 I have shields.

 

 

 

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Martin, come back and talk to me about my stove and water heater and furnace after you get a handle on methane coming from cow flatuence, the sea floor, and the melting tundra.  And after eliminating methane coming from power plants burning natural gas instead of going to nuclear power.

PS...I see Bob's forehead is exposed.

Noel

The tires are worn.  The shocks are shot.  The steering is wobbly.  But the engine still runs fine.

Headshots most always work. Just check for leaks, no big deal...

I bet if the grants were based upon methane causing global cooling we'd see the same alarm-ism coming from these over credentialed idiots.

One might think a household gas leak just may present a more compelling potential downside risk than being judged in the Holy Court of Greenness for the capital eco-crime of allowing a little methane to escape and float in the atmosphere for a few years...

Of course the electricity generated to power an electric range around these parts is coming from--you guessed it--the burning of natural gas.  Same goes for the megawatt-hours of juice used to charge "clean" electric cars (notwithstanding the creation of millions of tons of toxic used battery waste).

So meh...I jus't can't bring myself to care.  That said, I do use a gas sniffer to occasionally check for leaks because I don't want my house to blow up and leave me without a working video card in this not-so-brave new world.  Gotta focus on what's important!!  😜

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55 minutes ago, Penzoil3 said:

Just check for leaks, no big deal...

I'm sure if I had a leak I'd smell it Sue.  Besides a lot of the gas line and it's fittings are underground.  I know it makes a few bends from the meter in the alley to my house.

Getting down on my hands and knees the check things is a big physical chore for me anymore Sue.   I fell in the bathroom a few months ago.  I was wedged between the toilet and the clothes hamper.  Betty couldn't help me back up and had to call the paramedics to free me.

My exercising is down to 10-15 minutes in the morning on my exercise bike and 20 minutes in the evening on my Cubii while watching television.  And walking to the bathroom and the refrigerator.

Noel

The tires are worn.  The shocks are shot.  The steering is wobbly.  But the engine still runs fine.

Change doesn't happen over night it happens over time.

Noel you can keep your gas cooker, heater and water burner until the day you die. Nothing wrong with the way you live your life Noel, you bought all those when it was acceptable and common place, don't change now. Your grandfather probably heated by burning wood or maybe coal, so you are one step ahead of him by burning cleaner oil or natural gas, and your grand kids will probably heat with solar or geothermal or some fancy new futuristic technology, that is how changes happen through the generations.

We went from burning Wood to Coal to Oil to Natural Gas to Renewable Energy (Sun Wind Geothermal) and that has been the changes over time nothing has ever been over night

Matthew Kane

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I love the hyperbole now surrounding methane, which is the *3rd* most influential greenhouse gas.  Carbon Dioxide is second, and plants and trees need it to survive.  Yes, we humans should produce less of both where we can.

What the climate alarmists don't like to discuss is the most potent greenhouse gas of all by far: water vapor, which means steam, clouds, and fog.  Oh boy, I guess we'll have to start limiting our water vapor emissions as well. 

Sorry everybody, but in order to save the planet you will no longer be allowed to boil water or use a steam cleaner, and all saunas will have to be shut down.

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I have a gas cook-top, gas water heater, and a gas forced air heater.  If there were any leakage, my house would have blown up long ago!  The only thing around here that smells like methane is ME! ☹️  Don't light any matches! 🔥

P.S.  Smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors all in place!

I also have 5 of these in strategic locations:

 

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The famous phrase "Cold Dead Hands" comes to mind for me ; propane runs the stove , tankless hot water and the Generac .

 

 

 

 

 

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53 minutes ago, dave2013 said:

Sorry everybody, but in order to save the planet...

Humanity will have to go.  Come on camet!

Noel

The tires are worn.  The shocks are shot.  The steering is wobbly.  But the engine still runs fine.

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