January 27, 20224 yr Quote Methane has accounted for roughly 30 per cent of global warming since pre-industrial times and is proliferating faster than at any other time since record keeping began in the 1980s. In fact, according to data from the United States National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, even as carbon dioxideemissions decelerated during the pandemic-related lockdowns of 2020, atmospheric methane shot up. https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/methane-emissions-are-driving-climate-change-heres-how-reduce-them Quote Will reducing methane really help counter climate change? Yes. Carbon dioxide remains in the atmosphere for hundreds to thousands of years. This means that even if emissions were immediately and dramatically reduced it would not have an effect on the climate until later in the century. But it takes only about a decade for methane to break down. So, reducing methane emissions now would have an impact in the near term and is critical for helping keep the world on a path to 1.5°C. Sorry Noel... the cooker has to go. 😁 Edited January 27, 20224 yr by martin-w
January 27, 20224 yr Author 1 minute ago, martin-w said: I'll be coming round to your place later to rip out that stinky gas cooker. I've got something you don't have Martin, a gun. Don't try it. My castle, be it ever so humble, is protected. Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
January 27, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, birdguy said: The methane I release today isn't going to outlive me by much, if at all. But the positive feedback loop that results in more CO2 being released will. Edited January 27, 20224 yr by martin-w
January 27, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, birdguy said: I've got something you don't have Martin, a gun. Don't try it. My castle, be it ever so humble, is protected. Noel 😁 I have shields.
January 27, 20224 yr Author Martin, come back and talk to me about my stove and water heater and furnace after you get a handle on methane coming from cow flatuence, the sea floor, and the melting tundra. And after eliminating methane coming from power plants burning natural gas instead of going to nuclear power. PS...I see Bob's forehead is exposed. Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
January 27, 20224 yr I bet if the grants were based upon methane causing global cooling we'd see the same alarm-ism coming from these over credentialed idiots.
January 27, 20224 yr One might think a household gas leak just may present a more compelling potential downside risk than being judged in the Holy Court of Greenness for the capital eco-crime of allowing a little methane to escape and float in the atmosphere for a few years... Of course the electricity generated to power an electric range around these parts is coming from--you guessed it--the burning of natural gas. Same goes for the megawatt-hours of juice used to charge "clean" electric cars (notwithstanding the creation of millions of tons of toxic used battery waste). So meh...I jus't can't bring myself to care. That said, I do use a gas sniffer to occasionally check for leaks because I don't want my house to blow up and leave me without a working video card in this not-so-brave new world. Gotta focus on what's important!! 😜 Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
January 27, 20224 yr Author 55 minutes ago, Penzoil3 said: Just check for leaks, no big deal... I'm sure if I had a leak I'd smell it Sue. Besides a lot of the gas line and it's fittings are underground. I know it makes a few bends from the meter in the alley to my house. Getting down on my hands and knees the check things is a big physical chore for me anymore Sue. I fell in the bathroom a few months ago. I was wedged between the toilet and the clothes hamper. Betty couldn't help me back up and had to call the paramedics to free me. My exercising is down to 10-15 minutes in the morning on my exercise bike and 20 minutes in the evening on my Cubii while watching television. And walking to the bathroom and the refrigerator. Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
January 27, 20224 yr Change doesn't happen over night it happens over time. Noel you can keep your gas cooker, heater and water burner until the day you die. Nothing wrong with the way you live your life Noel, you bought all those when it was acceptable and common place, don't change now. Your grandfather probably heated by burning wood or maybe coal, so you are one step ahead of him by burning cleaner oil or natural gas, and your grand kids will probably heat with solar or geothermal or some fancy new futuristic technology, that is how changes happen through the generations. We went from burning Wood to Coal to Oil to Natural Gas to Renewable Energy (Sun Wind Geothermal) and that has been the changes over time nothing has ever been over night Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
January 27, 20224 yr I love the hyperbole now surrounding methane, which is the *3rd* most influential greenhouse gas. Carbon Dioxide is second, and plants and trees need it to survive. Yes, we humans should produce less of both where we can. What the climate alarmists don't like to discuss is the most potent greenhouse gas of all by far: water vapor, which means steam, clouds, and fog. Oh boy, I guess we'll have to start limiting our water vapor emissions as well. Sorry everybody, but in order to save the planet you will no longer be allowed to boil water or use a steam cleaner, and all saunas will have to be shut down. Dave Simulator: P3Dv6.1 System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home
January 27, 20224 yr Administrators I have a gas cook-top, gas water heater, and a gas forced air heater. If there were any leakage, my house would have blown up long ago! The only thing around here that smells like methane is ME! ☹️ Don't light any matches! 🔥 P.S. Smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors all in place! I also have 5 of these in strategic locations: Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
January 27, 20224 yr The famous phrase "Cold Dead Hands" comes to mind for me ; propane runs the stove , tankless hot water and the Generac .
January 27, 20224 yr Author 53 minutes ago, dave2013 said: Sorry everybody, but in order to save the planet... Humanity will have to go. Come on camet! Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
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