5 minutes ago, DChockey08 said:

I disagree. I think the point of the post is "up to par" where the "par" is P3D and it's current capabilities. Thus correctly placed. 

Have to disagree there with you. The focus of the topic is MSFS and the reference or baseline is P3D. If you follow your logic, we could have all other sims being compared in this sub- forum which is not what I would be looking for by coming to a P3D-specific forum.

 

 

Are we doing this again?

1 hour ago, avi8tir said:

Not a P3D vs MSFS thread.... Just want opinions.

Like many, I jumped on MSFS right away but it was lacking in many areas for what I use a sim for. I generally do short haul, med haul commercial flying primarily with PMDG aircraft and the QW 787. The available aircraft just were not/are not up to snuff for this in MSFS, in my opinion. Unfortunately for me, the graphics come in below the need for study level aircraft, but I do have most of the orbx products, about 50 airports etc to enhance where the default P3D scenery lacks.  As well, the complicated nature of just customizing views in MSFS like you can do with chase plane frustrated me. Small things like this turned me away.

With the PMDG 737 on the horizon for MSFS, this could get me to try it out again. I didn't even reinstall MSFS when I did a clean windows install last month. 

What is your 2022 opinion on MSFS as an avid P3D user?

MSFS 2022 is the best VFR sim I've ever used. 😀

P3D is no longer even installed on my SSDs. Does that answer your question?

1 hour ago, avi8tir said:

 

What is your 2022 opinion on MSFS as an avid P3D user?

It's the best flight sim currently available. Case closed.

Relatively to it being out only a year and a half, it is so far ahead, it ain't even funny. 

Example: WT G1000 NXi, the FbW A 320

43 minutes ago, 787flyer said:

@Ray Proudfoot Shouldn't this topic be placed in the MSFS forum?  I think it has a more deserving home there given the original title of this thread than here.

Nothing against the question itself and as a P3D user I do frequent the MSFS forum to see what the current state of play is with that sim.

No. Hangar Chat is neutral territory. Put it in the MSFS forum and all the things people don't like would probably be criticised especially if you're comparing it to another sim. XP or P3D.

"Up to Par?"

No! In several ways it is still a double-bogey on a stunningly beautiful golf course. But that last putt just slightly rimmed out.

Edited February 9, 20224 yr by fppilot

1 hour ago, Ricardo41 said:

Example: WT G1000 NXi, the FbW A 320

You're using the FbW A320 as an example for it being so far ahead? That's laughable. 

Example: FSLabs A320. 

1 minute ago, DChockey08 said:

You're using the FbW A320 as an example for it being so far ahead? That's laughable. 

Example: FSLabs A320. 

You seem to have missed my point. 

1 minute ago, DChockey08 said:

You're using the FbW A320 as an example for it being so far ahead? That's laughable. 

Example: FSLabs A320. 

But FS Labs don't have any aircraft yet for MSFS so the FbW Airbus is the current leader.

2 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

But FS Labs don't have any aircraft yet for MSFS so the FbW Airbus is the current leader.

But comparing the quality is laughable. I would not expect FBW to every be of the same fidelity as FSL.

Edited February 9, 20224 yr by Adrian123

If the subject is "is MSFS up to par yet?" 

Then one of the question must be "what is the quality of aircraft currently available for the sim?" 

On that note, MSFS is not up to par yet. Is it further along today than P3D/FSX/XP were at the same time in their development? Possibly, but that's completely irrelevant to the question of "is MSFS up to par yet?"

Edited February 9, 20224 yr by DChockey08

In my opinion, the answer would be "No" because none of the many aircraft I fly in P3d (other than the CRJ) are available for MSFS. Desktop sightseeing becomes boring to me after a short amount of time, and in many ways is irrelevant since I am mainly a tubeliner guy.

Cheers, Pete

16 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

But comparing the quality is laughable. I would not expect FBW to every be of the same fidelity as FSL.

No one has compared the FbW Airbus to the FSL one. But you have to take the price into consideration.

I don’t have either but the price of the FSL one is $140. How much is the FbW one?

Hi Avi8tir, judge for yourself 😉. Flying the FBW A32NX Experimental with FS2Crew FBW NX32, Pushback Express, RAAS Pro and FS Realistic along with Navigraph charts. Gatwick to Geneva

 

 

Edited February 9, 20224 yr by SierraHotel

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

No one has compared the FbW Airbus to the FSL one. But you have to take the price into consideration.

I don’t have either but the price of the FSL one is $140. How much is the FbW one?

FBW A32NX £0

Edited February 9, 20224 yr by SierraHotel