57 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

Anyway we can agree that they - like any other company - will try to maximize revenue and set the price according to that.

Can certainly agree with that.

The issue is that their strategy to achieve said result doesn't really look very solid in my experience. It sounds like a very simplistic approach to the problem. 

The price is well beyond one of the hardest (and well proven) psychological thresholds in the gaming industry, within a market that had a large influx of customers that are used to pricing in that industry. The effect on sales of going beyond certain pricing threstholds isn't incremental, but nearly exponential.

They 100% ensured that almost only those who are already set on high-complexity airliners and like vintage ones that are nearly extinct at the same time will purchase this, and they pretty much nuked the chance of capitalizing on impulse purchases. That's a very, very narrow target, and narrow targets don't make for good revenue unless the pricing is exponentially higher. 

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8 minutes ago, Abriael said:

they pretty much nuked the chance of capitalizing on impulse purchases.

It had this effect on me

16 minutes ago, Abriael said:

 and they pretty much nuked the chance of capitalizing on impulse purchases

That's a very good point, didn't think about that yet.

Maybe, just maybe, Just Flight who are a successful company for many years just happen to know what they are doing. Just saying...

4 minutes ago, Donka said:

Maybe, just maybe, Just Flight who are a successful company for many years just happen to know what they are doing. Just saying...

The price seems very reasonable to me considering what is included.

2 hours ago, Donka said:

Maybe, just maybe, Just Flight who are a successful company for many years just happen to know what they are doing. Just saying...

 

That's a common fallacy and a pretty clumsy way to address criticism, to be honest.

The gaming industry (like any industry) is chock full of "successful companies for many years" that make mistakes, even big mistakes. Flight simulation addon companies aren't magically wiser or any less fallible, and we've seen some pretty darn glamorous mistakes from them in the past.

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2 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

The price seems very reasonable to me considering what is included.

This.

And I'll be happy to pay less if they can make more. Just get the show on the road...

Wow ,who'd have thought that flight summing attracted so many corporate and financial gurus.I'll be looking here when I need  business strategy advice.. 

1 hour ago, danielwilliam said:

Wow ,who'd have thought that flight summing attracted so many corporate and financial gurus.I'll be looking here when I need  business strategy advice.. 

Flight simming, like any hobby that adults find fun, attracts people with all sorts of competencies and experiences. People have jobs and lives besides flight simulation. So while you're likely being sarcastic, you probably should not be surprised. 

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14 hours ago, bendead said:

It had this effect on me

Same for me. I was super hyped and since what I have heard from other Developers that have released planes for MSFS regarding sales numbers this was a plane I was sure to get, until I saw the price.

I have a pretty full DCS Hangar and purchased numerous AdOns for all the Flight Simulators that came out since 2.0, but I feel the niche pricing time could be over with the insane sales MSFS seems to produce.

But of course it's the choice of the Developer what to charge and it is my choice to pass on something or not. I am not saying I expect them to lower the price, it is fully their choice and I respect that. Just no buy from me for now, maybe when it gets a huge discount in a sale (if they ever do one).

I am getting the Wing42 Boeing this weekend, so I will be busy for the next weeks anyway 🙂

7 minutes ago, buedi said:

I am getting the Wing42 Boeing this weekend, so I will be busy for the next weeks anyway 🙂

I have a feeling that Wing 42 will capture a *lot* of impulse purchases from people who wouldn't otherwise have purchased such a vintage, niche aircraft.  I'm quite positive that choosing to price low rather than high will work extremely well for them, maximizing their revenue.

I've had nearly zero interest for this kind of aircraft before, and picked it up without a second of hesitation. Even if I won't fly it as much as modern airliners, the accessible price makes that a non-issue.

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2 minutes ago, buedi said:

Same for me. I was super hyped and since what I have heard from other Developers that have released planes for MSFS regarding sales numbers this was a plane I was sure to get, until I saw the price.

I have a pretty full DCS Hangar and purchased numerous AdOns for all the Flight Simulators that came out since 2.0, but I feel the niche pricing time could be over with the insane sales MSFS seems to produce.

But of course it's the choice of the Developer what to charge and it is my choice to pass on something or not. I am not saying I expect them to lower the price, it is fully their choice and I respect that. Just no buy from me for now, maybe when it gets a huge discount in a sale (if they ever do one).

I am getting the Wing42 Boeing this weekend, so I will be busy for the next weeks anyway 🙂

I imagine quite a few people will be picking the B247 up, and at $20 it's a no brainer.😄

1 hour ago, Abriael said:

I have a feeling that Wing 42 will capture a *lot* of impulse purchases from people who wouldn't otherwise have purchased such a vintage, niche aircraft.  I'm quite positive that choosing to price low rather than high will work extremely well for them, maximizing their revenue.

I've had nearly zero interest for this kind of aircraft before, and picked it up without a second of hesitation. Even if I won't fly it as much as modern airliners, the accessible price makes that a non-issue.

I might end up like buying it, too, but I'm debating with myself whether I would only do that out of sympathy with the pricing strategy, because I probably wouldn't fly it at all. The more high fidelity aircraft become available the less impulse purchases will be there, because people just have "enough" on their table. E.g. the CRJ and the DC-6 were probably bought by many people (including myself, who has never much flown big radial prop aircraft) because there was no alternative at all, they were "the first". Now I really think "Why would I buy the 247, I alreday have the DC-6 which is great and fulfills any need I might have for big prop airliners?". So the price doesn't really seem to matter that much anymore.
Now of course I also wouldn't buy it at 50 dollars, but maybe those without the DC-6 would. This pricing strategy really needs A LOT of purchases, and I doubt there are that many possible these days with all those aircraft imminent to release.
Again, the 247 seems one of the best aircraft for MSFS, but I really doubt I'd fly it due to its competition.

9 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

I might end up like buying it, too, but I'm debating with myself whether I would only do that out of sympathy with the pricing strategy, because I probably wouldn't fly it at all. The more high fidelity aircraft become available the less impulse purchases will be there, because people just have "enough" on their table. E.g. the CRJ and the DC-6 were probably bought by many people (including myself, who has never much flown big radial prop aircraft) because there was no alternative at all, they were "the first". Now I really think "Why would I buy the 247, I alreday have the DC-6 which is great and fulfills any need I might have for big prop airliners?". So the price doesn't really seem to matter that much anymore.
Now of course I also wouldn't buy it at 50 dollars, but maybe those without the DC-6 would. This pricing strategy really needs A LOT of purchases, and I doubt there are that many possible these days with all those aircraft imminent to release.
Again, the 247 seems one of the best aircraft for MSFS, but I really doubt I'd fly it due to its competition.

 

The Boeing 247 offers a very, very different experience compared to the DC-6. It's night and day.  A more direct competitor would likely be the Lockheed Electra (Which I don't know whether it was improved enough from its shaky start). Now, I'm not debating that it's out of many people's comfort zone, but the pricing will certainly push quite a lot of people to get out of said comfort zone. It did for me. 

Will I fly it enough that it'd justify as $50 purchase? Nah. But at its pricing, it's no doubt justified. Even if I fly it 10 times or less, it will have "paid for itself" in terms of entertainment.

Edited April 2, 20224 yr by Abriael

On 3/31/2022 at 9:08 PM, Abriael said:

Again, they're targeting the end of April.

You say that with authority, but I've not seen that stated by the Dev

 

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picked it up without a second of hesitation.

Amazing, the 247 is not even released yet  (ah you edited that out, LoL, something tells me to take your words with a large dose of Salt)

Edited April 2, 20224 yr by Sceadu