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No LIVE WEATHER, again ...

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14 hours ago, bean_sprout said:

Make your own weather.  Way more fun.

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Not when you are looking to fly in current real world conditions.

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12 minutes ago, Tierborn said:

Not when you are looking to fly in current real world conditions.

And especially not if you are not only doing sightseeing in a limited area with uniform weather. Personally, THE one thing I like about real weather is the fact that only in rare cases the weather is identical at departure and arrival and no preset can provide you this. And I want smooth transitions, that I can see miles ahead, e.g. an approaching cold front with half of the sky almost clear and the other half almost overcast. Something not even REX is capable of. That is why I would LOVE to finally have a working live weather implementation...

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9 hours ago, scotchegg said:

Considering the cruddy clouds in live weather recently, its unavailability can only be a good thing. 

The clouds are fine. 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

The clouds are fine. 

That must be why the last 2 dev q&as were led by questions about when they’re going to be improved.

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3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

The clouds are fine. 

They would be if they were a reasonable representation of a cloud (which sadly they USED to be until Asobo dumbed them down drastically). A cloud is not always a semi-transparent/slight fog where you can always see either the ground below you or sky above you while supposedly "inside the cloud". A cloud is usually pretty opaque once inside of it, where one cannot see anything outside of the plane. Which, by the way we really cannot go inside of clouds anymore (they are NOT volumetric anymore). There is no such thing as true overcast anymore. They clouds are unfortunately NOT fine unless if a person likes cartoony arcade like-repetitive clouds that look like volcanic ash.

They might have a fairly good look to some of them from a distance for screenshots, etc. but as soon as you get close to them, they are transparent blobs. Only ONE variation of cloud now (Cumulus) - oh wait YES there is the newly introduced variation from SU8 the baby cumulus "popcorn cloud". 🙄

 

 

Clouds seem fine to me, too, but apparently there are differences in the way they are depicted depending perhaps on settings, resolution, equipment, monitor quality, etc. Maybe one day it will all be worked out. In addition, of course, there are subjective differences between individuals. What looks fine to some seems mediocre to others. Life's like that.

Have a good weekend everyone.

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The problem with Live Weather lies with Asobo, they changed too much in SU7 without properly testing it beforehand and released a half baked update to the public. They're now playing catch up to their own ideas, whilst at the same time ignoring the users in forum thread after forum thread after forum thread (official forum not just here). The amount of these threads popping up like the popcorn clouds is testament that it isn't working correctly and the users have found issues, yet all we get are meaningless responses in Q&As without any concrete answers.

They have their own ideas which IMO are questionable, this stuff with the METARs could've been avoided had they properly Quality Assured in the first place...but history shows us they are devoid of any Quality Assurance in many areas of the simulation.

Whether there's pressure from MS to deliver certain aspects of the Sim, or concentrate on different areas who knows, all I know is that as good as MSFS is on one hand, it's very bad on the other.

18+ months on and my personal perception is the Sim needs a new Captain, to tighten the ship up and get it sailing straight ahead...not crabbing along dragging the anchor as it currently is.

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If I remember correctly, in P3D with several developers having clouds, there were constant arguments on clouds being or not being realistic. 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, MarcG said:

The problem with Live Weather lies with Asobo, they changed too much in SU7 without properly testing it beforehand and released a half baked update to the public. They're now playing catch up to their own ideas, whilst at the same time ignoring the users in forum thread after forum thread after forum thread (official forum not just here). The amount of these threads popping up like the popcorn clouds is testament that it isn't working correctly and the users have found issues, yet all we get are meaningless responses in Q&As without any concrete answers.

They have their own ideas which IMO are questionable, this stuff with the METARs could've been avoided had they properly Quality Assured in the first place...but history shows us they are devoid of any Quality Assurance in many areas of the simulation.

Whether there's pressure from MS to deliver certain aspects of the Sim, or concentrate on different areas who knows, all I know is that as good as MSFS is on one hand, it's very bad on the other.

18+ months on and my personal perception is the Sim needs a new Captain, to tighten the ship up and get it sailing straight ahead...not crabbing along dragging the anchor as it currently is.

Or they might get tired of all the complaining and just pull the plug on it like they did with MS Flight. 

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26 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Or they might get tired of all the complaining and just pull the plug on it like they did with MS Flight. 

If they do that then so be it, if they can't handle the pressure get out the kitchen! I mean it was clear as day that Asobo were brought in for their gaming/Xbox background, not their expertise in Weather & Flight...!

 

(I highly doubt they will drop and run away, after all they've invested into Xbox support alone!)

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23 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Or they might get tired of all the complaining and just pull the plug on it like they did with MS Flight. 

PMDG did not, although some complain in the official forums that the DC-6 is "unflyable" due to some GPS issues... I guess it takes a little more for a dev to give up just because of some (valid) complaints...

Greetings, Chris

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17 minutes ago, AnkH said:

PMDG did not, although some complain in the official forums that the DC-6 is "unflyable" due to some GPS issues... I guess it takes a little more for a dev to give up just because of some (valid) complaints...

I am one of those that was working on the DC6 GPS problem which was caused by SU8, .  The Developer located the problem, and will issue a fix for it. 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, KERNEL32 said:

They would be if they were a reasonable representation of a cloud (which sadly they USED to be until Asobo dumbed them down drastically). A cloud is not always a semi-transparent/slight fog where you can always see either the ground below you or sky above you while supposedly "inside the cloud". A cloud is usually pretty opaque once inside of it, where one cannot see anything outside of the plane. Which, by the way we really cannot go inside of clouds anymore (they are NOT volumetric anymore). There is no such thing as true overcast anymore.

And yet I was flying in a true overcast over Nashville yesterday which was several thousand feet thick and I could see absolutely nothing as soon as I entered the clouds. I stared into the thick in front of me in VR until I started to feel spatial disorientation creeping in. I agree that the clouds could use more work and that they were probably better before, but I can't agree with what you said in the quote.

26 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I am one of those that was working on the DC6 GPS problem which was caused by SU8, .  The Developer located the problem, and will issue a fix for it. 

You see, and what was so different in you making the statement that with this bug, the DC-6 was "unflyable" and the complaints about live weather here? PMDG recognized your criticism, looked into it and will fix it. That is what we hope to get from MS/Asobo as well. As for the GPS bug in the DC-6, also the live weather bugs do not affect all to the same extent and those who are affected complain. Nothing different here then...

Greetings, Chris

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Live Weather has been unavailable for me since yesterday until mid / late afternoon...

I believe they're in coordination with my gal... House tasks have priority... 🙂

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