6 hours ago, Lorby_SI said:

There is a demo version available on the AxisAndOhs Weebly website. It is fully functional, it just has a time limit for every session. Please make sure to check it out before you buy the app. 

Thank you.  Initially I just wanted to create profiles for my StreamDeck, but I would now like to explore customising my Honeycomb Yoke/Throttle with LVARS I have been reading about.  Is AxisAndOhs suitable for both these tasks?

I use / own Spad.Next and I own / used Axis and Ohs.    To me at least,   Spad is much,  much, easier for me to use.

If you just want to specifically use your stream deck,  there is a third option.    There is a Stream Deck plugin called "Flight Tracker" which uses Mobli-flight's bridge module to send and receive sim events.

https://www.mobiflight.com/en/index.html

If I were you,   I'd look at some YT videos that show the Spad and AOA interfaces.   

 

Edited April 20, 20224 yr by Waldo Pepper

1 hour ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Is AxisAndOhs suitable for both these tasks?

Yes. Please make sure to try the demo, there is no better way of finding out if an app is for you. If you find it too complex to use, just don't like it or if there are questions left unanswered - don't buy it!

Edited April 20, 20224 yr by Lorby_SI

3 hours ago, Waldo Pepper said:

I use / own Spad.Next and I own / used Axis and Ohs.    To me at least,   Spad is much,  much, easier for me to use.

If you just want to specifically use your stream deck,  there is a third option.    There is a Stream Deck plugin called "Flight Tracker" which uses Mobli-flight's bridge module to send and receive sim events.

https://www.mobiflight.com/en/index.html

If I were you,   I'd look at some YT videos that show the Spad and AOA interfaces.   

 

Ease of use is a strong consideration.  I used to love reading huge manuals, but my patience and concentration isn't what it used to be now I'm 60 😁

I got the lights work with the FBW profile on Spad.Next, however cant get the landing lights to retract when they are off? Anyone have any luck with that animation? Im on a Bravo Throttle system

Bill, I was having the same problem. I know this is a few months later and you might have figured it out, but in case you haven't, FBW set up a great page with all the LVARS and simconnect calls:

 

https://docs.flybywiresim.com/fbw-a32nx/a32nx-api/a32nx-flightdeck-api/

 

go down to External Lights section and you will find everything you need

 

 

15 hours ago, mike7440 said:

Bill, I was having the same problem. I know this is a few months later and you might have figured it out, but in case you haven't, FBW set up a great page with all the LVARS and simconnect calls:

 

https://docs.flybywiresim.com/fbw-a32nx/a32nx-api/a32nx-flightdeck-api/

 

go down to External Lights section and you will find everything you need

 

 

Thanks Mike, I got them working now

Axis and Ohs has some great support thanks to @guenseli. Thanks to his scripts and the Streamdeck templates in flightsim.to I was able to get setup rather quickly.  However, I cannot recommend Axis and Ohs… it’s almost designed to be as hard to use as possible. It is maddeningly mind-bending to write even the most basic script as it’s done in reverse Polish notation LOL. Even the UI is convoluted. My apologies to the developer for being harshly critical, but I think it’s true and others ought to understand what they are getting into. Thankfully there’s a fully functional trial.

If Spad.Next supports the same types of devices, like the Xtouch Mini and the StreamDeck, I’d probably suggest starting with that. It can’t be any harder to use than Axis and Ohs 😞

All I want is to have the sim load up custom profiles per plane w/o me needing to do anything to make it happen, I mean beyond initial configuration.  Mainly sensitivities and a couple of button changes.  Which is easiest to use for this?  Very simple idea I'm happy w/ the controls options I have in MSFS I just want custom profiles loaded automatically per airframe or what have you.

This is exactly how I have set up AAO here

 

On 9/18/2022 at 8:51 PM, Virtual-Chris said:

It is maddeningly mind-bending to write even the most basic script as it’s done in reverse Polish notation LOL.

It seemed logical to use the same scripting method that the simulator uses - has been using for 20+ years and is still using today. That way people have a chance of recognizing code in the MSFS/FSX/P3D SDKs, the behavior files, gauges and animations in the sim and transfer that into the app more or less directly. Plus there still are many resources online about this RPN dialect, since it has been in use for so long, and there still are people who know how to write it really well. Im my world, if there is an established, documented standard, you use it - instead of inventing a completely new scripting method, that people have to learn anyway - and that has nothing whatsoever to do with the way that the sim functions. And where I would be the only person who really knows how it works - imagine the support effort resulting from that! 
Besides - if you prefer LUA, Python or whatnot, just use it. AAO has a web based API that is free to use and documented in the manual, you can access that with any program in any language that you fancy (as long as it can do XmlHttpRequests).

On 9/18/2022 at 8:51 PM, Virtual-Chris said:

Even the UI is convoluted. 

Can't say that I've heard that one before. But to each their own. Matter of taste I guess.

You are right, that is exactly what the DEMO version is for - to find out if the app is for you before you buy it. There is a big fat sign in the product description in the shops telling people as much.

Edited September 21, 20223 yr by Lorby_SI

@Lorby_SI for what it’s worth I actually find the UI very easy to navigate. I don’t fully understand the details of creating scripts but assigning buttons, axis and using scripts created online couldn’t be easier. I’m very happy with product and glad I paid for it.

2 hours ago, KL Oo said:

@Lorby_SI for what it’s worth I actually find the UI very easy to navigate. I don’t fully understand the details of creating scripts but assigning buttons, axis and using scripts created online couldn’t be easier. I’m very happy with product and glad I paid for it.

Thank you, but I think that VirtualChris is actually not wrong. While the central GUI has been made as accessible as possible, the "lesser" dialogs, like around scripting, tend to be a little "engineery". Unfortunately, complex matters cannot be made easy just like that - they are what they are. IMHO that can only be achieved through magic. Luckily there are talented people in the simmer community who in many cases do the heavy lifting for you (please be mindful of those "donate" buttons when you download something from certain websites...)

Edited September 21, 20223 yr by Lorby_SI

5 hours ago, Lorby_SI said:

You are right, that is exactly what the DEMO version is for - to find out if the app is for you before you buy it.

IYHO, from installed and ready, how many minutes will it take the average user to insure 3 planes (PMDG 738, AS CRJ-700, B78X HD) will automatically load sensitivities and a very few minor variances for controller button presses?  I have lost patience for fiddling around making things work!

Just now, Noel said:

IYHO, from installed and ready, how many minutes will it take the average user to insure 3 planes (PMDG 738, AS CRJ-700, B78X HD) will automatically load sensitivities and a very few minor variances for controller button presses?  I have lost patience for fiddling around making things work!

Please note that AAO is not working with the simulator controller logic at all. It is a completely separate thing. So the time to spend is first to remove all assignments from inside the sim, and then to create them again in AAO itself, with the logic that the app brings. And AAO has actually zero relation to the MSFS controller logic - you cannot do the same things with AAO that you can do in the sim in the same way. 

If you are already on edge about the time spent, I wouldn't recommend taking this route. Completely new logic and new assignments - plus the work-arounds that you have to make for some controls (=scripting), we are not talking minutes here. This is the road where even more frustration awaits. Which (IMHO) is true for whatever external controller app you decide to use. 

If it is only about the primary flight controls and a few default buttons like trim, maybe 10 minutes per plane. I made a video about that on YT. Anything more advanced will take a lot longer.