I am really getting tired of all these updates

[Sesquashtoo 2,846]

4 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

This is MSFS water in 7 knots winds.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxHnuaTOstc5v4pEkxWIbXsv8qFnBrlgoH

 

 

Oh, that looks good, yeah, the water is no outright 'dog'...but your amphibian doesn't react to the water and wave peaks.  It sort of sits on a rail, like at Disney Land and the Nautilus sub ride.   I just hope they can fix all that...

[Sesquashtoo 2,846]

2 hours ago, Krakin said:

Considering the praise he gave it, I gotta say that P3D water looks......yikes!

LOL...'yikes'  yeah, or 'yikes' nay...lol.   I run with the P3D v5.x water at full throttle... 🙂

[MDFlier 2,031]

4 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

This is MSFS water in 7 knots winds.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxHnuaTOstc5v4pEkxWIbXsv8qFnBrlgoH

As a boater in the Chesapeake Bay, I can vouch for waves like that in a steady 7kt wind. 

The major factor is the alignment of the wind to the direction of the tide. If they are going in opposite directions, the washing machine effect happens and you get short interval steep faced choppy slop. Same in the Helliware Bay (Delaware). 

MSFS is probably not factoring that in though.

[blueshark747 1,847]

16 minutes ago, MDFlier said:

As a boater in the Chesapeake Bay, I can vouch for waves like that in a steady 7kt wind. 

The major factor is the alignment of the wind to the direction of the tide. If they are going in opposite directions, the washing machine effect happens and you get short interval steep faced choppy slop. Same in the Helliware Bay (Delaware). 

MSFS is probably not factoring that in though.

Wow right on!🍻

I’ve been boating and fishing on the Chesapeake/Solomons Island since a kid.

 

Edited May 23, 2022 by blueshark747

[Noel 4,563]

6 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

And landing at the default Manchester in MSFS looked worse than that by UK2000 in P3D. So addon airports are still required

Says the guy with who doesn't own nor use MSFS extensively.   Most default airports are excellent out of the box and many are breathtakingly excellent says the guy with vast experience in both MSFS and P3D/FSX.  Add-on airports are exceedingly optional by comparison to the absolute garbage in P3D unless a massive upgrade happened in v5.x.  

[Ray Proudfoot 9,040]

20 minutes ago, Noel said:

Says the guy with who doesn't own nor use MSFS extensively. 

Since when does one have to purchase a product in order to evaluate it? It was on a fellow enthusiasts PC. You really are trying my patience. I praise the sim for the things that I like about it but you completely ignore that and pick on the aspect I found unrealistic.

24 minutes ago, Noel said:

Most default airports are excellent out of the box and many are breathtakingly excellent says the guy with vast experience in both MSFS and P3D/FSX.  Add-on airports are exceedingly optional by comparison to the absolute garbage in P3D unless a massive upgrade happened in v5.x.  

Well guess what! Manchester wasn’t. And given it’s my local airport and I know it extremely well I think I trust my judgement.

Your lack of objectivity really is something to behold.

[RichUK 474]

Wow.

[cobalt 800]

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Since when does one have to purchase a product in order to evaluate it? It was on a fellow enthusiasts PC. You really are trying my patience. I praise the sim for the things that I like about it but you completely ignore that and pick on the aspect I found unrealistic.

One doesn't, but one's credibility is strained when his experience is limited to someone else's PC. If you do not use MSFS on a regular basis, your opinions may still have some value, but have to be taken in that context. If I am considering buying a particular car model, I am certainly going to be more interested in talking to someone who actually owns that car, as opposed to someone who occasionally borrows one belonging to a friend. Would you not say the same thing? I bought MSFS 8 months ago and I am still learning its nuances. I encourage you to do so too. You might be surprised at what you find.

Edited May 24, 2022 by cobalt

[IanHarrison 526]

10 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Comparing MSFS 2020 to P3D is like comparing a DaVinci to a Bob Ross painting.😏

But at least it's more affordable.

[Ray Proudfoot 9,040]

6 hours ago, cobalt said:

One doesn't, but one's credibility is strained when his experience is limited to someone else's PC. If you do not use MSFS on a regular basis, your opinions may still have some value, but have to be taken in that context.

Credibility is strained? Really? So using your logic no one’s first views on a new aircraft can be considered worthy because they’ve only flown the aircraft once. Yet hours after the Fenix Airbus was launched favourable opinions were accepted without question.

I notice you don’t question the good things I said about MSFS. Hmmm.

7 hours ago, cobalt said:

If I am considering buying a particular car model, I am certainly going to be more interested in talking to someone who actually owns that car, as opposed to someone who occasionally borrows one belonging to a friend.

What an odd comparison. No, I wouldn’t ask anyone’s opinion. I would trust my own judgement. If my friend was a foot shorter than me how valuable would their opinion be?

What I’m seeing here is any criticism of MSFS is frowned upon. It’s that I find bizarre. We’re all entitled to an opinion and to suggest my credibility is being strained reflects more on you than me.

[JBDB-MD80 1,486]

11 hours ago, cobalt said:

Does this thread now have any relevance to the original topic? 

12 hours later. Nope.

[Ray Proudfoot 9,040]

@Kyuss, I’ve said all I want to.

[Cmmcd87 82]

Yesterday I flew into Lisbon with photogrammetry on with the Fenix A320 with real weather, the latest update seems to have improved photogrammetry at least in my system. The visuals were amazing. I could never get this sort of visual experience from P3D, and personally this is relevant to how immersed I feel.
 

With the Fenix and the PMDG 737, and after this flight yesterday, I’ve finally uninstalled P3D v5 for good. This is my choice based on my personal preferences and observation, but clearly we’re all different, I’m just happy we all have so much choice right now compared to how we all felt when Microsoft stopped supporting FSX and some people even thought it would be the death of our hobby.

[Christopher Low 5,393]

I certainly cannot argue with the quality of those visuals. That looked extremely realistic. I am less sold on the ATC voices.....but that is another story.

[CFIJose 5,485]

1 hour ago, Cm2297 said:

Yesterday I flew into Lisbon with photogrammetry on with the Fenix A320 with real weather, the latest update seems to have improved photogrammetry at least in my system. The visuals were amazing. I could never get this sort of visual experience from P3D, and personally this is relevant to how immersed I feel.

Nice video! It's too bad that ASOBO forgot what they did with the Iberia WU8 because Italy looks like word not allowed after their WU9. Iberia looks great!